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1. When Bellator attacks next to one of his summons and they attack again is that a second normal attack (that Eldryon boosts) or a non-normal attack Trajann boosts and gives extra hits on.

In same situation, does calgar boost both attacks?

I was thinking Trajan, Kariyan, Bellator and Ragnar . Possibly Calgar.

I know Lasvsicus and and Boss are better but I’m basically nearly there on Ragnar, Bellator and I want them (and Celestine and the Tau double active guy) strong for Arena/LRE anyways .

Anyone can test them all at the same level and see how much damage I am missing?

Is this guy any good, 25% damage bonus until he uses active . 2 eviscarating attacks per round, would benefit from Trajann. Is he a Custodes flex?

I just saw this but realized that a Marshal Drier Active creates 4 or so neuroparasites and he suppresses each round. Him and Abraxas are a nice front load to a fully charged Neurophant .

Anyone know ? I want relic for Typhus, Celestine, Archimantos .

I think current Meta says Mechanicus is Trajann or Sho’syl plus Exitor, Tan , Actus, Vitruvius.

Does anyone know or can test if Thoread might be better than Trajann? Thoread’s extra hit on melee would apply to editor. And at Passive 50, a hit is worth more than a damage bonus on 2 hit editor passive as far as I can math.

The extra 2 hit one time effect, the damage bonus on other characters ranged attacks from Trajann are minor differences .

Thoread would be easy to keep close to Exitor . And if it’s all about optimizing Rho’s passive - he makes sense .

I’ve seen a lot of talk of Z’kar getting extra attacks from
book of fate. However does he do more damage than the other summons? Screamers and poxwalkers seems to do a of damage. Wilki suggests full upgraded typhus artifact creates kick ass summons.

I am wrapping by head around these extra hits on attacks, melee attacks or first extra damage .

Kharn does 3 attacks. Does this mean he would get 3 extra hits from Vitruvius and again from Thoread?
Abandon does 2 attacks, does this mean he gets 2 extra hits?
Would a Brother Jaegar get those hits on all his retaliations?

The language doesn’t specify normal attack.

Re’vas as a flex for custodes :

Dante and Trajann have bonuses that affect side attacks and help Kariyan (6 hits of attacks with pretty much a 20-30% bonus on big bosses for an equivalent 7-8 hits) and Kharn (12 hits from 3 attacks) . Ragnar is often a fifth. Lasviscus is an option. Vitruvius is sometimes used as Kharn is at least 2 attacks.

But has anyone tried Re’vas ?
The bonuses apply to his 6 ranged hits and his 2 bonus from particles. He’s easy to position to be near the last active ability user.

Re’vas and Dante in the Battlesuit Team

Battlesuit is Re’vas, Farsight, Actus, Eldryon, Darkstrider:

But is Dante a sub for Eldryon or Darkstrider ? His damage bonus applies to melee and ranged attacks for the suits like Eldryon and Calgar.

Are there any good non imperial guild raid teams? I’m asking because it seems all Custodes and Mechanicus based .

Neurothrope summoner seems to be it and no one is in hard love with that one .

Is the math on guilds just maximizing hits and bonuses to hits? Like a square with one side being hits and the other bonuses?

Leaving neurothrope aside for now (who is built up like 15 hits that can’t get bonuses )

Eldryon, Ragnar and Bella and Calgar used to be awesome.

Ragnar and Bella are 13 hits and Eldryon and Calgar are 2 bonuses .
So the team is 13 x 2 =26 roughly

Now it’s Trajann, Kariyan, Kharn. Including the 2 hits from Trajann and the extra attacks it’s 18 hits with one bonus . 18 x 1 from just those 3. Adding Ragnar would make it 27.

Battlesuit (farsight, actus, re’vas will be 30 hits) with a bonus on the ranged only (16 hits) . Add Eldryon or Calgar or both to that and have a party . Add exitor too for even more fun as an alternative.

Exitor Rho is like 10-20 hits by himself, only enhanced by Trajann.

Neurothrope is like a unenhanced 10-15 hits depends on suppression in others and his enhancement of summons.

Lasviscus is 6 hits. 5 from outrage benefiting from bonuses on the rest .
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Here’s the team idea . Lasviscus, Thoread, Vitruvius in Melee, Calgar , Boss . Trajann if Vitruvius can’t be used . The idea is to give Lasviscus 3 hits and 1 more for 1 round from Boss.
Each hit is the sum of everyone’s damage which Calgar (or Calgar or Trajann) enhances.

Does anyone know what mythic aethana’s crit damage bonus and increased crit percentage add to Exitor Rho’s extra attack? Is it material? Or is it just better to have another mechanical attacker (or summoner of mechanicals like Sho’syl) .

Reva’s, Farsight and any 3 mechanicus are good but when you can’t use mechanicus, I have some suggestions .

1. Neurothrope, Abraxas, Eldryon. Neurothrope enhances abraxas summons with relic, Eldryon helps Reva’s and Farsight and they all help Neuro for a back up damage buzz. All ranged too if low hit.

2. Calgar, Kariyan, Trajann.

3. Lasviscus, Kariyan, Trajann

4. Eldryon, Kariyan, Trajann

5. Lasviscus, Shosy’l, Calgar