u/Usoguisolos

For fun, guess the character he's up against, for context, this is manga aki-47, mainly because I am rereading liars game and usogui and going to finish ROT also for ROT do I need to watch a video on the three kingdoms? Just a question anyway here we go

FSIQ-

???

EQ-

Composition, behavioural inference, thought modelling, understanding, intrapersonal, autonomy, narrative (construction and portrayal of feats when statemens are taken into account.)-

???

Interpersonal, self-regulation, cold reading,

Aki-47

SQ-

Aki-47>=

Manipulation-

Direct, indirect, emotional, tactics, brainwashing, deconstruction

???

Logical, situational-

Aki-47

Deception-

Akiyama

Scheming will be fully dissected and broken down

Tactics, approach to reason, logical factor, quality, strategy -

Aki-47

Use of advantages, composition, contingency, execution, formulation -

???

Planning

???

Fluid intelligence -

Aki-47>=

Knowledge, crystisllised intelligence, statements, and narrative -

???

Reasoning -

Aki-47

Thinking -

Divergent, creative -

???

Rest -

Aki-47

Countering -

Aki-47

Counteraction -

Honestly, I don't know. Both are really good in scheming and manip+deception

Matchup-

Toss up ??? Specialises in warfare and manipulation combining it with long-term aggressive strategy and planning while akiyama is brilliant on both defence and offence in scheming, so it depends on who you argue takes OFFENCE here. As ???'s main defensive tactics utilise influence and his ability to dissect the psychological landscape of his opponents.

Fixed situation

Obviously Aki-47

Non fixed

???

RLS

???

Cat and mouse

???

Gambling

Aki-47

Overall ??? Very high diffs (+) yes, I actually do have Aki-47 above my favourite character PJ, but it's close imo. Probably will drop down when I finish liars game, but akiyama is a goat. I have him above Ayanokoji and canon death note imo. Or maybe same as koji, as I scale koji high.

Anyway if you guess who it is I'll give you a personal scaling of the character and my thoughts on him

NOTE: This is a semi decent old analysis in which my scaling has changed. This take was made BEFORE my L post on reddit, and the fact this take does accounts

for the movies and the movies I had seen at the time. For example, I only watched the first two and reread Death note. So keep this in mind before critiquing. If you critique the OVERALL scaling, then sure, dm for a debate and talk in the comments for a regular conversation. And if you noticed the formatting or nature of the words, yeah this was an old tiktok post.

I'm writing as im about to finish the tomodachi game and drop my entire analysis, celebrating betting my testicles and losing them both, I've decided to make this comparison as im currently about to finish friendless game and reread it to scale it. And I've reread Death note like twice and scaled light as a gateway to a high tier, as I have him as a top 3 mid tier, specifically. These two have always been my favourite, but for clarification, I'll be explaining what each category I use for myself and my scaling is.

Autonomy in emotional intelligence -

A combination of cold reading and psychological profiling, the understanding of someone's thought process and the actions they'll undertake based off of your preconceived notion or your ability to read their thoughts fluidly and account for them.

Composition in strategy -

The steps, process and logical reasoning, and modules you'd take to execute the process and steps in the layering and efficiency in the execution and formulation, tying into planning as well, whoever takes Composition in strategy will logically take fluid intelligence due to the fact its application of your thinking and modalities or application of your ability to fluently reason and properly understand what intricacies and coverage your strategies will need.

Oppositional adversity-

Self evident, but accounts for the situational understanding and reasoning we take to appreciate how hard X's feats would've been to perform against Y in the story, whether due to onscreen feats or narrative importance or statements.

With those two main ones out of the way, here we go.

FSIQ-

Wmi, vsi, psi, cpi, and vci-

Light

Potato chip and the helicopter feat in which he retains his memories all at once account for intial overload or amount of information he'd have to process and account for in such a short period of time, we then also have his knowledge statements and narrative, combined with his reasoning, although Fri goes to Yuichi.

Fri-

Yuichi, personally, I'd give this to Yuichi due to his strategical composition being higher than lights, and yuichi often relying on his fluid intelligence to setup and formulate counters and scheme in order to add dimensions and layers to the process and execution of his strategy like in the prison game or his gamble on the ship.

EQ-

Autonomy, understanding, management, and perception, realisation -

Yuuichi

SQ (overall)

Light

This shouldn't be hard to debate light has better social understanding and usage of his charm to persuade and guide people fluently. It's one his best categories.

Strategy (overall)

Yuichi

Fluid intelligence

Yuichi

Planning + Oppositional adversity

Light

A lot of TG scalers will NOT like this but the context and stress light was under while accounting for numerous variables like his own actions, who the death note would be handed, the outcome of the investigation, predicting and acting in accordance of L and the task force and foreseeing his retrieval of the death note, not to mention the additional invincibility of the swapping of the books grants him this category with high difficulty.

Reasoning overall

Light with mid-high diff

Thinking

Yuichi, due to taking strategy composition and fluid intelligence

Crystisllised intelligence and application of prior knowledge

Yuichi

Knowledge (academic)

Light

Insight

Cognitive, psychological

Yuuichi

Foresight

Both

Countering

Yuichi

For weaknesses since its a 1v1 scenario comparing categories, the weakness of his friends or potentially them holding him back isn't here. So I had to account for the times they've lost in each story and profile them based on that, and that's why light loses here, his EM isn't terrible and I'm not dumb enough to talk about his ego as if it's a TRUE nerf, but it's definitely exploitable and can be used as a method to counter him

Manipulation- Logical- Light Emotional, mass, direct, indirect, long-term, tactics, warfare Yuichi

Deception- Concealment, info control- Light Everything else Yuuichi

Weaknesses-

Light

Higher strengths-

Yuichi

Fixed situation-

Yuichi

Non-fixed situation from scratch -

Yuichi>=

RLS

Light

In cat and mouse

Light>=

Overall, Yuichi high-very diffs (-)

Cats out of the bag, I'm scaling yuuichi and other characters while writing a mini doc. It's less refined than the full version will be, but I'll polish the rhetoric and argumentation later. I'm making another bet for the tomodachi game, and I'll be betting my right testicle.

This suspicious ass old man is the killer. My reasoning? He lowkey looks like santa manabu, that and the fact he's always looking at the bodies, and he's quiet. But mainly, cause he looks like santa manabu.

I genuinely didn't expect her to be smart, I read this manga like 2 years ago, but I genuinely forgot she was smart and skilled at deception mainly because I reduced her down to G cups up until now because she DID NOTHING FOR 60 CHAPTERS. But I'm pretty sure I bet my left testicle she isn't smart too

Premise and initial context:

Note! This scaling will be using theories, headcanon, and canon, as anyone who reads, watched, or played fnaf understands the lore is a mess to contextualise, another note, Agony and Remnant alongside fear are tangible physical concepts in the verse of Fnaf that can be used and manipulated, we will be counting each of these as logical manipulation as well as hax (Fear will be predominantly hax beside the fnaf three connection to his manipulation.)

Premise 1:

We see william display marvellous levels of advanced FSIQ and knowledge in tandem with logical manipulation and engineering due to his complex understanding of mechanics and the human mind. Note: In this point in time, Fnaf, before the third game takes place before the early 2000s, the feat of engineering and understanding of mechanics are greatly bolstered and seen as more impressive here.

The discs feat and monitoring of Evan Afton:

This is based on context clues and theories and even in-game features in certain animatronics like the nightmares and funtimes with special discs placed inside of them. We know the discs play intense psychological and physical effects onto the brain and approach of thinking for Evan as we this from his perspective, hearing and seeing borderline physical manifestations of worst dreams and fears, to torture him and keep him inside targeting his innermost insecurities and terrors, showing how cruel and intricate William's manipulation and depth into his son's mind is.

But the other aspect of this is the fact that the discs leave almost no real distinguishable difference or sign between conjured nightmare and reality for the mind to understand and reason with, targeting the senses and thinking process for the victim of these discs, with Willaim building discs and technology so intricate it can allude the minds initial recognition pattern and fully leave reality and dream as not two seperate planes to reason with but one reality forced upon onto victim as an advanced manipulation and torture method.

William essentially developed technology capable of manipulating sensory perception and producing sufficiently convincing hallucinations that completely render the victims' normal ability to reason and understand reality unreliable.

Premise 2: The soul and its ties to remnant:

William didn't magically understand the workings of souls and their conceptual mannerisms and workings. He experimented extrapolated on his reasonings and strategies so he could conquer death as a means to serve his theatrical ego and philosophical view on death as something to overcome.

We see his reasoning and sharp intuition after the MCI;

He notices slight twitches, disturbances in the animatronics and their behaviour, and how they get "A little quirky at night." And follows this line of reasoning-> Suffering in death can be preserved and kept within his machines and machinations-> Remnant can be used as an energy source physically affecting its environment and those in contact with it-> To prove this theory William kills again to understand the relations between suffering and how it can be kept-> After this is proved, he builds the funtimes to serve as entertainment as a cover up for a double layered strategy to brutally kill children in this location creating the scooper to extract flesh as in the books william discovers its the body as well the mind that creates agony alongside Remnant. His theory and reasoning are proven not only through his death as springtrap but in the multiple possessions throughout the series connected to him.

William definitely possesses supernatural tools, but it's his approach and methodology that allows his intelligence to be properly understood and demonstrated by discovering their properties and understanding their applications and engineering systems to allow effective and efficient strategies and reasoning behind his thoughts and theories behind them.

It is important to note William's acceptance of the supernatural and how it plays in part with death as a crucial step and benchmark in his intellectual process, also benefiting his Crystallised intelligence and fluid reasoning.

The brainwashing and torment of Rory:

The context for this feat is that Rory has been brainwashed, probed and decieved by afton for ten years, cruelly being made to follow a web of deceit and lies, tricked and played into believing he's still a child being manipulated and psychologically warped in a state where he hasn't even noticed the fact he's aged yet, again utilising his skilled machinery to induce fear onto his subconscious and crafting gas or a similar concept to fear toxin to warp his perceived sense of reality (note how this is consistent in fnaf media as he's performed feats like this earlier in the franchise. However, it is shown he refines and perfects these things.)

He ensures through these two strategies and traps placed throughout this building that Rory still believes he's a child as its imperative to this strategy however he sets up a contingency, already foreseeing Rorys attempted escape ten years prior leaving a recording placed perfectly that will trigger the very instance Rory attempts his escape, the recording saying "Don't leave." Increases and intensifies the decades' worth of torture and emotional manipulation and damage afton placed upon Rory, making him give into despair and return back inside.

However, after the recording is played, it resets. The same goes for gas. It fills Rory's senses again and makes him forget completely whatever he's discovered. Creating an impossible loop for Rory to get out of due his poor mental state, insecurity, and underlying fear manufactured by afton creating a psychological paradox that Rory will never discover, overcome, or even real

Bare in mind these three premises are ironically enough fully canon and just have fan-theories from people like matpat, the withered truth and a little bit from myself to make aftons intelligence be digested in a way to be scaled and understood without making him and unrealistic statement and hax merchant with soul hax.

The manipulation and control over Vanny: As Glitchtrap, he exploits and induces control over Vanessa from a different medium entirely, using his ability to psychologically profile and analyse weakness in people and develop a seed of doubt or insecurities within to further build upon and extrapolate with, this is demonstrated within his feat with Rory, but is more impressive here as Vanessa was a fully autonomous free thinking woman, meaning he had to construct and deconstruct the psychological barriers and wariness she would have against him and slowly undo it so he could accomplish his goal of enacting his will onto the real world gaining a puppet whilst slowly gaining control back, utilising manipulation for the first stage of strategy as a double layered plan to reinvent himself and come back to the physical world.

Circumventing his own current limitations and by proxy gaining a puppet and achieving his goals.

Afton manufactures digital infrastructure with his preexisting technological knowledge utilises the V.A.N.N.I. interface and mask as a connection of digital and physical environments. This allows his influence to extend beyond his limited digital form and strategically manipulates human perception, cognition, and behaviour while ensuring real physical agency in the real world and connected users. Rather a need of another strategy that inherently requires direct physical manifestation, Afton effectively brainwashes human operators into extensions of his own will as well as setting up an effective counter strategy and contingency while using his expertise in technology to create intermediaries between his consciousness and the physical world.

I've noticed a lot of people have questioned the framework of logic for my scaling for characters, mainly like Ayanokoji, or have claimed my document on L and why I scale him as a top tier relies on outlandish conclusions in this tier, my first statement here is that yes. I scale Ayanokoji above canon death note this means manga and anime and the LABB novel. However, when utilising my personal scaling for L, I do not think he wins.

Now, what do I define as autonomy as in EQ? I use it frequently to justify why X>Y in EQ a lot. Autonomy follows the belief that you can have keen insight beyond conventional means of emotional reading and understanding an extremely similar category to cold reading, but what is the belief you can have a view or understanding of someone's subconscious psychological layout, or see into their motivations beyond conventional or rational forms of emotional intelligence a way to justify this using an example is Patrick Jane's style of reading one's motives and actions, an example is when he justified his knowledge of the killer due to someone's favourite animal and he linked it to their view and emotional position to the victim.

On first thought, it seems outlandish and weak, but when a character has an existing method or form of reasoning to understand one's subconscious or motivations in high stress situations or without any proper prior information it'll fall under Autonomy, which justifes these initially outlandish feats of EQ and intelligence of the human mind aiming to make it more digestible and the understanding of reasoning with one's brain space easier within an already logical and coherent form of processing.

This ties into my statement that L is able to draw conclusions and answers for "countless variables in the criminal world" by utilising his experience and cognitive flexibility when operating within the setting of solving a crime, however people nitpick the phrasing of "countless" variables, I simply meant the majority of crimes in the world can be understood and approached with a coherent form of thinking or strategical thinking by L in this context. This is why I scale L so high using this framework. If you disagree with this line of scaling, we can debate on reddit via text or vc via discord I don't really mind defending my takes.

I'm genuinely curious. The last time I read TG was when I was 15, and I'm going into my second of college, so that should give you a time frame of how long it's been since I've consumed any tg media, but if anyone has a useful scale I'll gladly reread it because I dont hate any scd comm necessarily

Genuinely speaking, I have a feeling that Light's the type of gear to blast 500mg of test and claim natty to fish for compliments on Instagram Koji would probably be on a cycle but he'd be honest about and share what he's pinning while Baku already overdosed off of tren due to his heart failure

I've gone into full explicit detail already. This explanation is going to be brief. Ayanokoji will be replacing Sans' role in investigating and coming to a logically sound conclusion and strategy to stop frisk, either by weakening their determination and making them quit, severing their connection to the world or figuring out their nature and what they are. (A time traveller.)

First of all, Ayanokoji has no physical means of weakening frisks' determination or desire to live/continue. Physically, the weakest version of Frisk survives a building exploding and dodges literal sound waves and lasers, and this isn't a powerscaling sub but bottom line. Frisk would maul him. As for making them quit, it isn't, so Frisk has no emotion, but they rarely express it besides the desire to either continue or to SAVE and ERASE. Even against Omega flowey and Asriel, they remained not stoic but steadfast whilst being tortured and hit with things beyond their initial comprehension. Manipulating through fear or anything that aims at psychological distress or reaction doesn't work.

There's also the initial problem of even understanding frisk. They visually rarely display anything, and Sans, through his knowledge of space and time, makes inferences and delicately formulated guesses based on the corresponding situation of the world. He can read the karmanic value of one's soul and see the good in people and can analyse microexpressions on a deep level even understanding in the genocide run the amount of times you've died or based off literal to almost zero visual or emotional cues if you've interacted before, even possessing a specific failsafe tailored to prove if a time traveller has entered the underground and interacted with him in these conditions dubbed legendary fartmaster. Stupid name, but it shows his contingency and failsafes already set up before frisk has entered the underground. This completely shielded unless a specific chain of events spread across different resets (Literal different Sans' across space) use EQ and Abductive reasoning to realise you're searching for a code to prove or show him youre a time traveller.

This means his strategy isn't dependent but is directly made to prove his theory that a time traveller is searching for this answer. This code. Ayanokoji does get access to Sans' knowledge on time and space and the workings of spatial theorems and how it interacts with time, meaning Ayanokoji doesn't even know to setup these failsafe or to plan for it. Even if you scale his EQ or abduction above Sans. If you honestly think he displays or has higher knowledge on space and time like Sans when Sans can comprehend space time, continuums whether they're "stopping and starting" and draw conclusions from logical processing and inference and his own crystisllised intelligence and theory then I'm shocked. Even if you scale him>Sans. He doesn't display the ability or has even any reason to operate under the same logical framework and modality that Sans does because he doesn't have the information or knowledge. That is KEY. To even have a chance in this situation. You NEED this or a knowledge and belief in multiple worlds and possibilities. You need to believe the impossible, and Ayanokoji comes from a logically grounded verse. If placed with literally zero info. Why would he reach these conclusions? He wouldn't.

He can't stop the time traveller and unfortunately he dies here his lack of information understanding of the verse and the workings of dimensionality limit the scope and depth of his potential to pose a threat or formulate a counter to Frisk. A lot of people claim chen ren can stop this, so who do you think in SCD can stop the anamoly with these harsh conditions in place?

It is obvious batman would be top tier to unrealistic, but where does he stop? Which characters could stop batman. The same batman who can calculate a time bomb to create a temporal effect to slow down the flash, the same batman who can recall his entire life and can visualise Gotham, whilst also outsmarting a 12th level intellect and is also narratively the smartest mortal in all of DC canon. Which massively upscales him. As a matter of fact, Bruce's combat feats alone place him at high tier operating on a higher dimensional plane of logical analysis whilst simultaneously creating plans and setting up situations for any possible variable that may occur.

Like being able to forget his own identity and set up a contingency for himself at will and outperform higher dimensional fighters and people who can analyse, copy, use future sight, and choreograph his moves Bruce operates not as a peak human but at the upper limit of the dc physiology acting as a barrier between mortal and immortal pulling off feats that aren't even considered logically possible, like his psychological conditioning unto himself allowing him to resist metaphysical and magical attacks like Diana's lasso of truth.

A composite Batman can interact and decieve beings operate on another level of spatial and temporal existence like bat-mite and influence their thoughts to help him, even constructing a failsafe that accounts for the strengths and weaknesses of beings who can tap into archetypal realms of power like Diana, superman and the flash. In his hell bat armour or final bat suit. Batman is also consistently stated, shown, and narratively implied to have a vast understanding of the physiological and psychological frameworks on people and how it influences their autonomy being able to dissect, read, analyse and prepare for numerous variables in mere interactions or moments of meeting people.

That and his endurance, both psychologically and physically, is inhumane. Surviving all forms of torture, physical and mental, and having complete mastery and totality over all martial arts on earth and even besting beings from the future like Karate kid. (I forgot this characters name. I'm pretty sure it's karate kid.)

Being able to visualise lethal and non-lethal pressure points while accounting for danger and potential ambushes against numerous opponents is nothing for batman, either. Also boasting complete mastery over his subconscious and conscience brain.

I've read more of COTE, analysed read some analysis, watched some analysis videos, and realised my take on these two simply wasn't justified and came off of as bias due to my knowledge being split. For context, if you want my L scaling read "The brilliant mind of L Lawliet," which goes over his reasoning, strategy, and cognitive ability. The reason I don't count manipulation is because I made some assertions that rely on MY personal opinion of L and some crazy assumptions exhibit A being L accounting for all variables in crime. What I meant was due to scenes in the movies and original source material, and narrative L should have a vast understanding and realisation of multiple existing variables in a crime due to his accurate charts and profiling of cases and criminals especially due to his narrative. Upscaling his reasoning, FSIQ, and intricacies in analysis and crystisllised intelligence. As for Ayanokoji, my scaling is there on Ayanokoji vs. Light. And Ayanokoji vs. Lelouch, where I value Kiyotaka's manipulation and long-term strategy and flexibility regarding his shielding and strategical invincibility. Both characters have received buffs, but L has received a nerf in my glaze for him going down. But reminder this movies (mainly 1 and 2 I haven't seen CTW yet.) L+animanga and my analysis. So the take won't leave a lot of you happy, so for that. Sorry, as usual. I'll also be using more SCD categories and not the ones I like for this. So this is a high effort 1v1.

FSIQ-

Wmi, cpi, vsi, psi

Koji

Fluid reasoning index,

Lawliet

EQ (full scale)

Emotional management- koji

Emotional perception and cold reading

Koji

Emotional manipulation-

Koji

psychological profiling, understanding of goals and autonomy, analysis, and scope of thought

L

EE-

Koji

SQ-

Koji

Manipulation-

Koji

Deception-

Koji

Reasoning-

L

Thinking-

L

Analysis-

L

Strategy-

Formulation, scope, appliance>=

L

Shielding, depth, invincibility, long-term and adaptability, short-term>=

Koji

Planning-

Koji

Overall, scheming goes to Koji with only a strategy being close so far with L taking all reasoning, thinking, and analysis, as stated previously stated. EQ currently, even with me appreciating Ayanokoji, more is still relatively going to be high diff in either one's favour no matter who you scale to win.

In RLS from scratch-

Koji due to better scheming.

In RLS with influence

Obviously, L. His best feats come from having influence

Influence building- koji should take this.

Fixed situation w/o influence -

Koji takes.

Overall, in general, outsmarting

Ayanokoji is very high diff (-)

However, Ayanokoji could take this with a lower diff due to scenarios and currently better scheming in planning and manip her alongside deception.

As per usual, yugi with have excess to Atem and destiny draw, alongside his will power manifestation which enables him to actualise his will and allow it to exist in and come to fruition in reality, as for some small feats or some minor scaling. He will also have the millennium puzzle alongside him, which gives true EE, EU, and EP, via allowing him to perceive someone's inner nature, innate sense of being, and the actualization of themselves that their mind has conjured.

We have his feat in the duelist kingdom against Pegasis, a man who can verbatim read the thoughts of whoever is front of him, Pegasis was able to read all of Yugi's thoughts, including subconscious ones so whilst under stress Yugi and atem developed a strategy that would make revolves around their bond and spiritual connection to one another's mind swapping minds and accurately and acutely predicting and inferring what cards and strategies the other was trying to synchronise to win the duel all whilst dodging the mental mind reading and mind games of pegasis. The main emotional and psychological distress is losing his grandfather if this strategy fails, showing immense theory of mind and engagement emotionally and self understanding between the two. With this feat out of the way and his arsenal locked in, we'll be giving him characters to go against.

All characters with abilities will HAVE them to make it interesting.

Koji?

Low diff (-)

Lelouch?

Mid-high diff (-) lelouch shows good enough adaptability in games and strategical warfare, alongside having the geass in his disposal makes this harder. Even if I scale him and koji relative.

L?

Low diff (-)

Light?

Low diff (+) if you believe ryuk can provide help, which he won't as due to verse equalisation and atem and he both being spirits, the two would see each other, not much help.

Patrick Jane?

Low diff (+) good EQ. There is no way around the hax or synchronisation in his arsenal.

Baku

Baku could win due to more intricate feats in reasoning and manipulation, and his high EQ and thought process could enable him to have a chance. So we'll say Yami Yugi extreme diffs.

Same Souichi. Extreme diff/either way.

Junko-

Either way.

Against genuine high tiers, Yugi would be relying on his bond and harmony with atem alongside his busted arsenal. So, in terms of normal or methodology scaling, he'd either be mid tier or baseline/Low high tier at best without it. So we'll have him stop here.

I bring this up because I haven't it seen talked about frequently, but should OCs be allowed in SCD? I had an old OC from a COTE fanfic a couple of years back, and he was kind of mid. Back then, my rhetoric and scaling were weak, so he was carried by narrative. His best on-screen categories were mainly emotion reading and misdirection, as he was essentially an upgraded mix of takuya and light. My favourites back then. But his FSIQ and planning without narrative may genuinely make him of low tiers. But should thought-provoking and well written OCs be in SCD?

For anyone curious, his narrative just essentially gave him good memory and sensory scaling. He wasn't op because I couldn't write OP characters back then. He simply just relied on the same over played gimmick of heart beat reading. I don't know how people genuinely enjoyed him back then. He'd just "read the room and listen for a change in breathing. In posture" and outsmart his opponent by baiting them. It was cringe, but it allows me to make this post and ask the community.

Conditions:

Yugi and Atem have full access to their arsenal, and the metaphysical aspects surrounding including soul insight, the ability for them to switch consciousness, and the power to activate destiny draw

Destiny draw: Yami Yugi has the innate ability to disturb and influence fate to benefit his will and allow his heart to guide the world to his goal even being able to pull off the logically impossible feat of summoning exodia.

This will be EOS Yami Yugi they will have their usual ability to synchronise thoughts and expressions in perfect harmony and the only way to stop this feat from occurring is to either A: Beat them before they summon exodia, or B: Somehow find a way to stop fate from being brought forth onto the world.

It is important to understand that when destiny draw is active and Yugi and Yami are in harmony, the phenomenon dubbed the heart of the cards is merely more than a hopeful speech and a determined duelist they actualise the cards they need and work in conjunction with destiny to win. So, in other words, by feats alone, specifically in gambles and games, Yugi would be a high mid tier to low high tier displaying adaptability and the fluid ability to reason and apply a strategical framework to any game, also narratively being superior to people who can see into the future and the soul verbatim and has the capacity to survive such adversities like his soul being damaged. So do you think any character can pull this off?

The tiers are as follows:

S tier-

On the level of genuine high tier SCD characters

A tier-

Professional, maybe graduated. Good enough to be a detective or therapist.

B tier-

Good at reading people and understanding why or how they think in certain situations, or you display a decent level of knowledge on emotional intelligence and psychology, maybe you're a student in criminal psychology, general psychology, forensics, law etc.

C tier-

It's relatively average. You're not bad, not great either. Just the average guy or girl

D tier-

You couldn't guess what a five year old would want in a candy store even they were pouting and looking directly at it.

If I were to be honest. EQ isn't all about 'manipulation' or outsmarting someone. It's simply being able to display a good enough level of understanding and reasoning and applying it to how someone may feel or act. Maybe prior knowledge and closeness in friendship allow you to read people better. But chances are if you think you're a highly skilled manipulator, you're not.

I personally think the highest form of EQ is displaying understanding, having a flexible and adaptable framework of the human mind, applying said framework and understanding and using to read and better understand people letting you think and act as them in certain situations so you understand their scope of reasoning and depth of thought. And I think the kindest and most realistic way a good person would use is to help others seek peace and be comfortable within themselves.

That's why I study psychology and plan to study criminal psychology as well. Blood spatter, angles, motives. To solve crimes and bring closure to families. I've come to understand through my studies that those who display high levels of self understanding and understanding of others are able to greatly express and utilise their emotional intelligence. It isn't about manipulation it's about allowing yourself to think and understand another human being, and humans are complex creatures. Your framework could allow you to understand criminals, but not a bakery employee. Some people are wired for different things it's having the scope and range to accurately understand and read different types of people in different areas of life utilising the foundation you've learnt and built.

If I were to be honest, the highest I'd see myself is B tier. I haven't finished my studies yet, and I have room to grow as a person as well. More room to mature and experience life, allowing myself to become a better man, will allow me to help people become better as themselves. I honestly see myself if I achieve my goals in studies and employment, either being a detective or a therapist. I want to either solve crime. Or help the struggling people in my city. Like how I was helped by those before me.

Which is why I made this post so everyone can share their thoughts and discuss not even as self scaling but what YOU find good EQ to be and what you'd with it. I only put B tier because I've done well in peer to peer interactions, theory, and understanding and helping the people throughout the course of my life to be happier and better if I had for example patrick janes EQ I'd definitely be a therapist. And for any mods, this isn't like actual self scaling where I'm making up insane feats. I'm just sharing my thoughts etc etc. I don't even have insane feats to begin with just a discussion

I'll start by listing my personal definition for an inference. As the sub has already talked about deduction before.

An inference is simply a well-educated guess or an idea of understanding based on information given and information TAKEN here is a difference, unlike a typical deduction usually seen as an assertion, an inference is subjective to change and able to adapted and expanded easier without hurting story or narrative. My point is if the information for Y is given by X and X's information is false, the initial inference can be adapted and changed, allowing for a more fluid line of reasoning and modality to be used in this situation.

Imagine you and your friends are playing a social deduction game like among us, a popular game everyone's seen. Your friend C is the impostor, and he poisons the well giving you false information, and you make an inference that is initially wrong. This is information given to you. But later during the game, you adapt the initial framework of reasoning to fit a broader lense of logic based on anything. For example, X avoided lights being fixed or was late to a body report etc etc. You can now build up a better inference and thus arrive at a better guess or new line of action.

But a basic definition of a deduction is: starting out with what you know and logically what working what must be true. for example:

All humans need oxygen to breathe and to live (this will be true to make it easier to understand, but yes, this is general fact.)

John breathes.

It is safe to assume John is a human.

so if C is able to give you information that's false and your deduction is either C isn't the impostor or C is safe your deduction is wrong as your conclusion is not analytically true and you COULD adapt it don't get me wrong but under this traditional and widely accepted definition it would be harder to adapt to it.

It essentially affirms the condition and affirms the result. But the condition could be false.

If C (P) gave me this information and this information is true (Q), then C is safe (P-> Q) Or if Alex studies for a test, he is more likely to pass (P) Alex studied. Alex is more likely to pass as an easier example to uphold, too, and agree upon.

However, if the condition is false, then the result also has to be false. For example, if a character manipulated toward a certain result. For example, Ayanokoji with Ryuen, Light with the 13-day rule. Then, the person they've tricked now has anti-feat within their reasoning or scaling their reasoning. However, if this was inference, then it wouldn't be such a heavy anti-feat. I'm not saying guesswork>deduction, and I'm not gonna fully debate because that position is shaky to uphold anyway. This is just another opinionated post of mine for anyone to debunk, analyse, read, or enjoy.

Fun side note: I can finally do 88kg on chest press for working weight. I thought it'd be funny and alright to share a positive milestone in a sub where we all argue frequently

Obsessesion serves as a basis to show us as the audience that bear wasn't some innocent, kind guy, hiding behind cowardice. But it shows us his true nature. He is a coward hiding his desires behind a mask social awkwardness, and when given the chance, he becomes an awful person. Who can't face the consequences of what he's done, but it makes his character deeper and more interesting, exploring darker aspects and ideas of who he really is. Making us as the audience realise what he is.

Bear isn't really a 'victim' of anyone but his own lust and personality. But that makes him a good character. Likeable? Obviously not. But good? Yeah, it was an amazing and entertaining movie that was downright eerie.

Rick is seemingly overlooked and viewed as lesser within SCD, but his feats are insane. For example, Rick is able to create a proper functioning universal space with its own society and civilisation on his own, but to understand this feat, it is important to understand the core components and intricacies that go to creating any form of space whether on a 3rd dimensional level or 4th. Rick would've had to have a complete understanding of time, space, and matter to initially create a cause of the universe and properly implement it into reality which governs almost a lot intelligence categories and FSIQ categories mainly VSI and FRI to fluidly visualise and understand these concepts.

He'd then have to go on to create at least one galaxy and solar system and replicate a functioning ecosystem and basis for civilisation to progress and steadily exist, as without any of the previous variables being implemented it'd go to shit and wouldn't function as a proper universe at all in theory or in practiced reality, Rick would essentially have to scientifically follow the process and modality of a creator or authority of a creator following and adjusting calculations for minute details, variables and any obstacles within the way of this process which is what makes insane.

There's also the fact that this is a more casual feat, but for general calculations, Rick effortlessly replicates faster than light travel on numerous occasions, understands and even tempers, and affects the space of higher dimensional aspects and forms of reality throughout the show, after the death note movie doc is completed I'll be rewatching the series for more feats and better rhetoric within my explanations.