u/Wellington1821

Two historically Important British SMGs that should be added

Two historically Important British SMGs that should be added

One thing the Allied tech tree is still missing is two of the most common British submachine guns of the war: the Sten Mk 5 and the Thompson Machine Carbine (TMC).

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From a historical perspective, the Thompson Machine Carbine is arguably the more important omission. Between 1940 and the widespread introduction of the Sten (and 30-round Thompson Magazines) in 1942, the 20-round TMC was effectively the standard British & Commonwealth submachine gun. It equipped elements of the BEF and its successors, Commandos, airborne units, the Home Guard, and countless infantry formations throughout the Empire during its most critical years of the war. No other faction in Enlisted has such a historically significant gap in its SMG progression during such an important period of the Second World War.

Scots Guards, 1942

Indian (?) soldiers

Canadian soldier, 1940 (?)

Malay Regiment, 1941

Aussie (1943?)

Neither weapon would be a revolutionary addition, as both are variants of weapons already in the game. From a historical perspective, however, they really ought to be included.

I know some people aren't particularly enthusiastic about weapon variants, and that's fair. There should absolutely be more genuinely new weapons added as well. At the same time, Darkflow has introduced mostly variants of existing weapons over the last several updates, so adding two historically significant British ones wouldn't be out of place.

They could also occupy distinct gameplay niches rather than simply duplicating existing weapons:

Sten Mk 5: Slightly more accurate with even lower recoil than the existing Stens thanks to its improved furniture, pistol grip, and overall handling. It could also feature the No. 4 bayonet.

https://preview.redd.it/o7qbmin5kkbh1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=7c10243f901bb845ae259c56efdbe04211ae7f03

Thompson Machine Carbine: A 20-round, high RoF SMG occupying a niche similar to the Beretta M1918; devastating in close quarters, difficult to control and requires frequent reloads.

The TMC, in particular, should be one of the easiest weapons to implement. Britain primarily used pre-war Thompsons (the M1928 and some M1921; both are already modelled) fitted with the Lyman rear sight and 20-round magazines (with their view witness holes mostly welded shut).

Stat-wise, implementing the TMC would require only minor adjustments, principally a slightly higher cyclic rate than the existing M1928. A different wood finish would also help visually distinguish it.

To avoid unnecessarily extending the grind, the TMC should be foldered behind the existing M1A1 Thompson rather than making it another mandatory research unlock. That would let players who want the historically correct British Thompson obtain it without adding another required step in the tech tree. It also makes sense mechanically, as the TMC had already dispensed with the Blish lock, using the same simplified operating principle that was later retained in the M1 and M1A1.

https://preview.redd.it/ps7576rbkkbh1.png?width=700&format=png&auto=webp&s=536aa7f0ad6e4139cdbc4b9f734ed8f6acf5d5dc

Neither weapon would significantly affect game balance, but both were issued in large numbers and would make the Allied tech tree feel far more complete and historically authentic.

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u/Wellington1821 — 10 hours ago

One of the most glaring absences: The Hawker Typhoon

For a game that likes to call itself 'historically accurate' in promotional material, it is highly peculiar that the Hawker Typhoon is still missing.

https://preview.redd.it/0p29gtuvz8bh1.png?width=850&format=png&auto=webp&s=2c2dbc11ba556332b2f12b36102c0d2286b63a59

The Typhoon was the RAF's tactical aircraft during the mid- to late-war period, especially in the fighter-bomber role over north-west Europe, although it was initially designed as an interceptor.
The Typhoon accoringly absolutely deserves a place in the Allied tech tree. Agility is lacking compared to Spitfires (though still surprising at low altitudes), but the Typhoon makes this up with speed.

So here is the obvious solution:

Add a standard Typhoon Mk IB to the tech tree, with an ordinary loadout.

https://preview.redd.it/posql0u909bh1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=91b059d19da7ac4cc4aeeedf8560cd966b1ff192

Then, since Gaijin must eat, sell a premium Typhoon Mk IB with the more exotic loadout: 4 RP-3 rockets and an incendiary drop tank like the old Hellcat/A6M3 premiums/event squads.

Drop tanks are a long-forgotten feature, so this would be a great excuse to bring them back, as specially designed drop tanks were trialled with this aircraft.

Here some information on the drop tank:

https://preview.redd.it/n98n4mxj09bh1.png?width=542&format=png&auto=webp&s=a470508fc8c849b71117b4c36902d0d87c66afad

https://preview.redd.it/laa2qg7p09bh1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=4a1fb2cacc6312c2b32824f1a993ec7175992b92

https://preview.redd.it/owhx0s1v09bh1.png?width=745&format=png&auto=webp&s=e296a9b4006aab35f4f3937cb65e6043d66fa3f8

Source:

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA474302.pdf (file download)

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u/Wellington1821 — 2 days ago

So the Skink is not even with a Canadian Squad.

Seriously?

The Grizzly Skink was famously only field-tested by the Canadian 2nd Armoured Brigade. Adding them would have been brilliant, as Canada is underrepresented in Enlisted.

Vehicle Marking, Canadian 2nd Armoured Bde

Why it is with the 30th Armoured Brigade, 79th Armoured Division (i.e. Hobart's Funnies), is beyond me. That Brigade used Sherman Crabs after dispensing with the Valentines.

Disable Sherman Crab, 30th Armoured Bde. Sword Beach.

As iconic as the 79th may be, I would rather have had something rather more fitting, like a Churchill AVRE, a Churchill Crocodile, a Churchill Goat, a Sea Serpent, a Sherman Crab, well, you take the point...

No, I don't have the Skink Squad yet. I shall wait for a sale... if they don't fuck up too much till then.

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u/Wellington1821 — 18 days ago