u/WriterEducational801

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3 Point Molly vs. Just Pass with Odds

I'm a bit confused. Everyone seems to love 3 Point Molly.

However, it seems to me that 3 point molly is really just playing 3 different games simultaneously, with the upside that sometimes an early 7 may be slightly mitigated if your come out hasn't established a point, and the downside that once the points are all established one single 7 wrecks all 3 bets.

So it seems like it's just Pass and Odds but with higher stakes and faster resolutions, but it's always touted as a sustainable strategy.

Am I missing something?

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u/WriterEducational801 — 2 days ago

Foul or Not: Pushing without using hands or arms

Scenario: Two players, defender and attacker, going after a ball slowly rolling out the back (will be a goal kick if nobody touches it).

Attacker and defender come together (not a charge) as the defender tries to shield the ball.

Attacker starts trying to push the defender with his body, not his arms (not his shoulder either) as he fights to get to the ball (remember I said the ball was rolling slowly) while the defender is pushing back, but as a result the defender accidentally touches the ball before it goes out.

The defender wanted a pushing foul. I was AR, but I didn't call it because it wasn't a charge (they were just up in each other's grill) and no arms were ever used.

Looking back at law 12, it doesn't really mention that arms are required for it to be a push. I've heard "arms down" so many times, but I can't find it in IFAB just after a cursory check.

What say you? Foul or no foul?

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u/WriterEducational801 — 3 months ago