u/YveisGrey

Bad men more likely to cheat and sleep around because they are bad duh!

When RP men argue that women “like bad men” because some of these men have high body counts isn’t that just begging the question to some degree?

Because if a man is bad won’t also be more likely to sleep around given the opportunity? Like say a “bad man” is married and a woman comes onto him won’t he be more likely to go for it which would increase his body count? Whereas if a “good guy” who is also married got approached by the same woman he would reject her out of his own goodness? I would also argue that a bad man is more likely to seek out other women while married compared to a good guy.

Now apparently the “bad women” are the one’s sleeping around a lot according to RP. Sleeping around makes a woman bad. So let’s be consistent here “bad women” who sleep around why wouldn’t they be sleeping with the “bad men”? Isn’t that who they would be around anyways? Is it actually surprising that is who they would be attracted to?

The way I see it “good men” and “good women”wouldn’t be looking to sleep around in the first place this is not a behavior associated with being good, so in general both good men and women probably have lower body counts as a function of their goodness.

Arguing that women don’t like good men because they don’t sleep with them is a bit paradoxical and ignores the possibility that maybe good men choose not to sleep around. Because why would a good guy be sleeping around in the first place? This is really all based on this faulty moral framework in the RP where by a man wanting to sleep around is presented as “virtuous” but this has never been the case. In general sleeping around is considered neutral at best (in a sexually liberal society) and morally wrong in most societies and for most of history. You are not a “good guy” because you want to sleep around. It’s even more bizarre when these same men try to argue that women are bad for NOT wanting to sleep around. Like huh? Since when is it bad that a woman is cautious and selective about who she sleeps with?

And I know not everyone thinks casual sex is bad or that you are a bad person if you sleep around but in the aggregate sleeping around is more strongly correlated with bad things vs not sleeping around. Things like substance abuse, cheating, “spinning plates”, lying, sex work etc… that means of the people who do sleep around more of them are bad or have done these bad things vs out of the people who don’t sleep around.

Also there are obviously bad men who don’t get any women at all. Some of these incels are bad (mean, selfish, anti social, rude, even criminal in some cases) and they aren’t getting any. But it’s not because they wouldn’t sleep around it’s because they can’t find willing participants. And no I am not saying all incels are bad or even most but some are so clearly not all bad men are just attracting women like that, some straight up repulse women

I just never understood the argument that bad men sleeping around proves women like bad men. All it shows to me is that all else being equal “bad people” sleep around more than a “good people”.

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u/YveisGrey — 2 days ago