u/Zealousideal-Way-618

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1 Paaddana sentence, 4 different linguistic origins

There is a 4-word sentence in a Tulu Paaddana where all 4 words have different linguistic origins.

The sentence is 'tarantarada paatrogu sannoḍu muuriyolu', meaning 'She cut small pieces (of the vegetables) into various vessels'.

  • For 'tarantarada', tara (type) comes from the Arabic word tarah (type). This words is also seen in Kannada as taraha and Hindi as tarah.
  • For 'paatrogu', 'paatro' is from Sanskrit paatra (vessel)
  • 'sanno' is shared across Dravidian languages from Old Tamil sanna (small).
  • 'muuru' is from Old Tulu (cut vegetables), and is also related to Malayalam muuru

I think it's really interesting that Tulu Nadu was so connected with the rest of India and Asia even in ancient times

Please correct me if any of these are wrong!

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u/Zealousideal-Way-618 — 9 hours ago

Standardisation of Tulu

If we want Tulu to be official, we'd probably need a standard form for writing. But since we haven't had a standard form for so long, our various dialects have diverged quite a bit.

If we go by our historical written literature, most of it was from Odipu, but the Kudla dialects have more speakers today. Also, most of them were written in Brahmin Tulu, which hardly has any speakers today compared to more common variants.

The Brahmin Tulu tended to use a lot of Samskrutha tadbhava words that we don't use in speech today. But it also preserved some sounds like 𑎳​/ಳ​/La and 𑎵/ೞ/zha which are lost in more common dialects - the second sound is lost even in Brahmin dialects today.

Even the Tulu/Tigalari lipi doesn't have a fixed standard

Should we choose an existing form for a standard? Or should we create a new mixed standard? Or maybe we don't need a standard at all?

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u/Zealousideal-Way-618 — 5 days ago

Bethe desholen thUnda namma deshad kendrikarana (power centralisation) maste jaasthi. Uruda vishaya bage theermAna malpuna adhikaara ithae rAjya sarkAraDa undu. Municipal councild nama elect malpunaakleg la baji proposal malpuna adhikaara undu; kadetha theermAna rajya sarkAra malpuni.

Namma Urudu kelasa malpere bodithina shaktilu namma elected officialsge korodu. Baji namma Urug athu, namma deshada mAtha elected nagara pAlikelugu thaanaadhu decisions malpere aapilakka malpodu.

Eethu diverse aadhippuna deshad incha kendrikarana daayeg malthder?

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u/Zealousideal-Way-618 — 24 days ago