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[Shoutout] Incredible Resolution with TMF & Mod Shoddy88 on a Factory Defect Pair (LJR Undefeated 4s)
Hey everyone,
I wanted to share a quick "short story" about a recent experience I had with a factory defect on a worn pair, how it was handled, and why keeping your cool and having solid proof matters in this community.
The Issue: Unexpected Glue Bleeding
A couple of months ago, I picked up a pair of LJR batch Undefeated Jordan 4s from TMF. Out of the box and in the QC pictures, they looked absolutely flawless. However, after wearing them exactly twice, the factory glue around the midsole started aggressively bleeding and seeping out.
It was a total catch-22 situation: there was no way for me to know the glue wasn't properly cured until I actually put them on and walked around, but in the rep game, getting a replacement after wearing a shoe outside is notoriously difficult.The Initial Hurdle & Mod Advice
I reached out to one of our mods, Shoddy88, to get some guidance on how to navigate this. He initially pointed out a very fair reality in the community: once a shoe hits the pavement, it becomes an immediate gray area. Sellers rarely offer full refunds or replacements because it’s incredibly hard to prove a factory defect versus regular wear-and-tear or user damage.
At first, TMF offered a standard $5 courtesy discount and a small gift for a future order. While a nice gesture, it didn't really cover a $120+ USD pair that was unwearable after two days.How We Proved the Defect
Instead of spamming or getting aggressive, I made sure to gather undeniable evidence:
I took high-quality, clear photos of the bleeding glue.
I grabbed my original, pristine QC photos from the sub to show a direct side-by-side comparison.
The photos clearly showed zero heel drag, zero dirty midsoles, and zero heavy creasing—proving the shoes were practically brand new outside of the seeping glue.The Resolution: TMF’s Boss Steps Up
Shoddy88 backed me up behind the scenes and chatted with the seller. Because I’ve been a loyal customer of TMF and presented a respectful, factual case, TMF's factory boss personally reviewed the photos.
Once the boss saw the condition of the shoe compared to the bleeding, they agreed it was a clear factory defect and authorized a completely free replacement pair. TMF even applied my existing order credits directly to the shipping fee, meaning a fresh batch is heading my way for next to nothing.
Takeaways for the Community
Document Everything: Always save your QC pictures. If a weird flaw happens later, you need that "before and after" proof to show you didn't just beat the shoes up.
Be Respectful: Don't panic-spam mods or sellers. Presenting a clean, polite case gets you infinitely further than getting angry.
Shoutout to the Team: Huge thanks to Shoddy88 for helping guide the situation and to TMF and his team for proving why they are trusted sellers who actually care about their buyers.
Has anyone else ever dealt with glue bleeding on recent LJR batches, or did I just catch a rare bad apple? Let me know!
💡 Pro-Tip for when you post:
Make sure to attach a few images to the Reddit post:
- One of your original clean QC pictures.
- The photo showing the glue bleeding on the midsole.
- A screenshot of TMF saying his boss agreed to the new pair so people can see the proof!
But no massive shout out to everybody in the community for helping me with this flaw and if you guys have any concerns or questions, definitely feel free to message me and I will definitely try to help you guys as much as I can with possibly getting this stain out if you guys ever do have this problem thank you guys again and I love you all and I hope y’all have an amazing rest of your year