▲ 7 r/CFP

NUA and exchange funds

Have a client with a large concentrated employer stock position. A portion of it (overall it is millions of employer stock) is NUA. He really has no interest in ever selling this company for tax reasons but also emotional/bullish belief in the company. I am trying to get buy in from him in the value of diversifying and protecting his legacy. Exchange funds came up in conversation.

He also has other employer stock that is taxable. Since NUA does not get a step up in basis at death I explained if we were going to diversify eventually and you want to capture NUA we may want to consider diversifying from NUA portion of stock first since this will not be treated as favorably for a step up.

Another advisor was on the call and mentioned if we were to contribute the NUA to an exchange fund we get diversification, tax deferral AND in 7 years when the 50-60 diversified stocks distribute from the exchange fund those stocks are then eligible for a step up in estate.

This is such a niche situation and a quick ai search where I asked it to cite sources didn’t corroborate what the other advisor was saying about the step up.

Anyone ever experienced this and know the answer?

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u/_ledge_ — 4 days ago
▲ 90 r/Denver

Photo of last night lightning overlooking Ruby Hill and Overland Golf Course. (Video in comments because idk how to add to post)

You can see a transformer get struck and promptly explode or catch fire. Also after that to the right you see a cloud to ground strike on the overland golf course.

u/_ledge_ — 11 days ago

Dual Fan. What do the Isles need?

I’ve been an isles fan since I am old enough to remember so probably since like 2002ish. However after Covid I moved to Denver and have been following the Avs very closely and I’m a season ticket holder.

I got ESPN+ this year so watched maybe 10 islander games or so. I plan on watching more this next year.

I’m wondering what pieces do the isles need to make a cup run?

From what I know y’all have Schaefer, Sorokin who is elite, and also Barzal who whenever I see play I always think “damn this guy stands out. He’s fast and has moves” also he was always scoring the OT winning goal whenever I watched.

Do you guy think you can make a cup run this year with just a few moves? Or are y’all still building?

It seems like y’all need at least 1-2 superstars if I were to shoot from the hip. No idea how your depth is.

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u/_ledge_ — 1 month ago

I’ll say it

I would miss Brock Nelson so much if he were gone. I like him. I always have since the Islanders. I’m deff a fan boy but I like that he’s a family guy, keeps his head down, a cool calm presence. Nothing frustrated me more than seeing him produce very little in the playoffs.

I think he can still provide a ton of value to the team as well (I know unpopular opinion)

The fact he was the one they wheeled out to deal w the press while MacKinnon, Necas, etc hid from them.

Hopefully no one on the team is blaming him too much or giving him too much shit. These things happen.

He will always be my gold medalist.

Not too savvy on how the front office stuff works - is it basically a lock he will be gone?

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u/_ledge_ — 1 month ago

My autopsy for this series only

A few fatal flaws I think we had that cost us the series in embarrassing fashion. Disclaimer - I have no idea what I’m talking about:

  1. We were injured in very crucial areas that Vegas was able to exploit early and get momentum

  2. Yes the NZ trap was annoying buts it not why we lost the series. We played dump and chase hockey bc that is the best counter to NZ trap and our team is fast enough to actually get the first puck touch. Our biggest failure against the NZ trap imo was our players were not committing to the dump and CHASE. I noticed so many times 1 MAYBE 2 ppl would chase. I think this had to do with our players using their discretion on when to chase and not committing to it bc VGK was so dangerous on the transitional goals. Almost like a decision of “I’m not in position to help with this dump and VGK has scored on transition a lot. I’m going to stay back on this one and defend the transition”. The issue with that is a dump and chase will never be a perfect opportunity. You need to chase and then fight on the board for that opportunity to organize your offense and you need the entire team to commit to that fight on a defense heavy VGK. This dynamic made it so we were handing VGK the puck for free all game.

  3. This is the big one. When we were able to enter the zone - VGK played a zone + 1 defense. The zone defense clogged up our biggest strength. High slot, high risk shots on net. The + 1 (VGK had very good center depth for this) harassed our offense forcing them into passes they didn’t want to make and frankly were unable to make. The way to counter this defensive structure is quick passes using your defensive men or even one someone behind the net to catch the +1 out of position leaving someone open. Our best passer on defense was missing the first half and injured the last half. We had no ability to quickly pass and disorganize the zone + 1 hybrid structure bc we could not pass quickly. It’s also why we kept seeing passing all game bc that IS a very strong way to counter it and probably *should* be the game plan. The zone defense forces low chance shots that you really should not depend on to win you a game and will make the goalie feel invincible and kill your moral.

  4. The team cannot and really has never been able to play from behind in the post season. We lost 2 low margin games to start the series at home - came out hot in game 3 and when VGK punched back we completely and totally psychologically collapsed. We were playing a style we didn’t want to play, against a team who wasn’t afraid to stick to their plan and would absorb any attack from us. To win required a level of speed and precision that our roster and team was too banged up psychologically and physically to execute.

I think it’s silly to say we didn’t adjust or Bednar does not know how to. We did adjust (which is why we dumped and chased and passed so much). We just didn’t have the health or fortitude to play from behind and not panic when VGK punches back. Now those things probably do fall on the coach but not for the reasons I commonly hear like Bednar isn’t smart enough to figure it out.

Bonus video on zone + 1 defense: https://youtu.be/QfOfIBgDXkk?si=HgJSxu9jMplzurnI

Edit: If I were to play devils advocate on myself as to the ‘how did the Ducks figure it out?’. Aside from fully committing to the dump and chase. The Ducks chose a different counter to the zone + 1.

Another effective counter is crash the net. Cause chaos in the box and disorganize the zone defenders. Basically let the structure implode and score on that chaos.

I guess you could say the while we did adjust we didn’t try what the ducks did and crashed the net. Giving that a try at least in game 3 or 4 would have been a good idea from the second period on.

Also the ducks goalie played better and not sure how their PP did. But that’s my devils advocate for “how did the ducks with less talent figure it out”. They used a different counter to box + 1 and it worked better for them but still lost the series.

u/_ledge_ — 1 month ago

This is why I stopped watching sports

I was born in NY 96 on the day of game 3 of the SCF - the year the Avs won their first cup. I was and still an Islanders fan my whole life - I was lucky my dad would bring me to 3+ games a year every year growing up.

About 10 years ago as I entered college I said “why would anyone follow sports played by strangers they have no control over and get emotionally involved?”

I moved to Denver after college for a job. Mark Rycroft owned the liquor store next to me by complete chance. The avalanche were good! It gave me a sense of community in a new city. I watched the games I could - I remember crunching pennys to stream the games bc I was broke. They won the cup and I went to playoff game the first year! I went to the parade and all but I wasn’t too emotionally involved but still would go to maybe 2-3 games a year.

It felt like destiny to be an Avs fan - they won in 96 when I was born and the year I moved here!

This year I hit a point in income where I could stream all games, go to a lot of games - even the playoffs. I watched them over dinner with my partner who grew a love for watching it with me. Maybe bc we could just spend time together and disconnect.

I even bought jerseys with players NAMES on them and I LOVE Brock Nelson bc he was an Islander and he connected me to NY. I love being apart of a community too. I follow players on social media, etc.

I almost feel like a “new” sports fan.

Now during this series I can’t help but think “this is why you stopped watching sports”. I connected my identity to the Avalanche. Would be so excited all day to watch them. Sometimes it got me through the day.

After this massive choke I just can’t help but feel “maybe I was right when I was 18 and said following sports was a waste of time”.

Maybe I have the wrong attitude I understand the odds are maybe every 32 years your team will win.

I just don’t like this feeling I willingly took on and wonder like wtf is the point. I understand this is way too long of a post for anyone to care but I actually feel really sad and this is a community to me so wanted to vent.

How are we 3-0 against this team? I truly believed this was one of the best teams ever. This all seems so statistically unlikely. The ducks did better than us. Our team is stacked. 75-0 when leading by 3? 45-0 leading into the third? This is a *literal* historical choke. The games aren’t even fun to watch - there’s no grit. We seem soft.

I love my city, my home, the players, and I want them all to win so badly. I feel *actual* sadness for a team full of strangers and it makes me feel dumb for even caring.

How do yall balance the reality maybe every 15 years they’ll win if im lucky and also being passionate/part of the community? 95% of the time they will end the season losing.

Really none of this stuff matters at all- why do i care?

I really don’t care if I get made fun of. This feels new to me and I don’t like the feeling I get but don’t wanna leave yall.

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u/_ledge_ — 1 month ago

Avs watch party at arena? How do I choose seats?

Where is the game shown? Jumbotron only? What are the best seats? Idk how to decide

u/_ledge_ — 1 month ago