u/adamantcondition

This is a sticky one because everyone's head tends to stay in their asses and not even acknowledge the actual philosophical discussion that could be had.

First, the question posed is a legitimate question, even if the premise has many faults. Even if it's asked in bad faith, it's still a basic level of religious argument that millions of people struggle to move past. No, I will not be responding to the "if atheist, why good?" here.

I see this exchange reposted more times than I can count and it bothers me because it also contains a glaringly false premise; that religion is considered a place for righteous people among the religious. Even among most holier than thou types, the rhetoric is most often bad persons > finds god > better person, not good person > becomes religious because they are innately better.

The original question isn't even about who we should consider good and bad. The response forces that into the conversation just so the most brain-dead people of the internet can hand-slap each other over the zinger . Do people really think a religious person would see this "comeback" and even for a second think it was an own?

Anyone who posts this uncritically I believe themselves to be in a very juvenile mindset of morality.