
Revisited: The incredible entangled web of Vuong Pham
This is an old post about three years ago, but many in this sub have not seen this so I repost.
It is a visualization of the entangled web of Vuong Pham's companies with lots of interdependence. Some entities no longer exists, some new entities emerge, such as VinES, VinSpeed, VGreen, etc... the data is outdated, but the principle is still the same as three years ago: Vuong Pham uses lots of companies cross owning each others, in order to cook the book: not listed shells taking in debt to make the listed one looks better. Shells taking loans the giving to Vin because Vin cannot borrow themselves or sells taking in Vin debt to cook the book. And there is the largest black hole with billions dollar in debt that is completely hidden from the public: VIG, Vietnam Investment Group. You rarely hear about VIG in the Vietnamese media if not at all. And VIG is just one, there are many billion dollars debt entities in Vuong Pham's web of companies that are completely hidden from the public. GSM is now another billions dollar debt and loss entity. VGreen is a billion dollar debt too.
Vuong Pham is the biggest financial fraud in Vietnam history but he is covered up by the communist government with the complete censoring of news about the truth about Vuong Pham, the bad truth about how much debt he owned and how shady he is with all shady financial tricks.
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In the series:
How Vuong Pham used a shell company to pump money into Vinfast : VinFastCommunity (reddit.com)
Here in Part 2, I present you a complete visualization of the entangled web of Vingroup as of 5/31/2023, where companies are owning each other in a complicated way. Cross owning happens in many other Vietnamese conglomerates (say, FLC, Van Thinh Phat, etc…), and even around the world, but there are more on the Vingroup ecosystem, at a different level, read on.
The entangled web of Vingroup
Click this link for a full scale picture:
Isn’t the picture "beautiful"?
Vuong Pham is a “great artist”, isn’t he?
Legends:
- Green border: company child level 1 with respecting to Vingroup, where Vingroup directly owns a portion of it
- Red border: company child level 2, reaching Vingroup through 1 company up.
- Blue border: company child level 3, reaching Vingroup through 2 company up.
- Yellow border: company child level 4, reaching Vingroup through 3 company up.
- Boxes with color-filled background (the color is the same as the border but lighter for visualization): those with 3 or more children. These are hub companies, important companies in the network.
- The percentage inside the box is the % owned (controlled) by Vingroup, directly owned plus sum of all indirectly owned through other companies in the network.
- The gray arrows indicate the relationship from the parent to the child.
Note that the company child level 1 to 4 is to help you visualize the network and the relationship among the companies (nodes in the network), but since Vingroup controls more than 50% in each of the node, Vingroup is in full control of the entire network: it can directly influence any of these node as it wants. And since Vingroup is controlled by Vuong Pham, Vuong Pham is in control of every node and the entire network.
Interesting insights from the data
Once having mapped out the network, we can draw many interesting insights never been seen before. See the full stats at the end of the post. Here are the medals:
Can Gio company has the most parent, 5 parents. Then Sado, Sai Dong Urban Development, Delta has the distinguish of having 4 parents. 19 other companies have 3 parents. See the full list at the end of the post. Having more than 1 parents from the same network is shady, it could mean fake capital contribution (not always but could be).
Vingroup has the most children, 26. Next come Vinhomes with 22. Vinpearl and Metropolis Hanoi each has 11 children.
Here is the kicker for fun: Vincom Security has 10 children. Though the percentage of owning by Vincom Security in each company is small, less than 1% in each case, it is just for fun: now you know why Vincom Security is really powerful! /snark See the full list at the end of the post.
These are companies with the distinguished of being owned 100% by Vingroup: VT Vinbus, Vincom Security, VinFa, Vinpro, World Academy. Even though VinPro has no activies, the VinPro shops have been closed years ago, and there is no activities for VinPro, Vuong Pham still keeps VinPro on the book, probably as a shell for later use. See the full list at the end of the post for those that are owned by more than 70% by Vingroup.
Do you know that Vingroup has 7 companies in the Mineral mining / Stone industry?
The Vinfast tree
The Vinfast tree is on the right in the Vingroup’s web picture. It is pretty clean, compared to the portion on the left in real estate. It is really auto industry. Vuong Pham takes money from the left portion of the picture to pump into the right portion of the picture, so to speak.
The red arrows in the below pictures indicates money lending from which entities in the network to Vinfast in the past. At June 2023, the debt to these companies and VIC is $1.546B.
GSM
Why don’t we see GSM in the network? Because GSM is directly owned by Vuong Pham 100%, not through VIC so it does not show up in the network or in Vingroup report.
The black hole VIG (Vietnam Investment Group)
Vuong Pham has another huge financial vehicle: VIG (Vietnam Investment Group). This is a private company, escaping from the public filings endured by Vinfast, Vingroup, Vinhomes. So, this is virtually a black hole, controlled by Vuong Pham. This one does not show up in the network.
Even without having the money, VIG took in Vinfast ICE plant at $1B at the stroke of a pen. Isn’t this “marvelous”? No question on how VIG gets the money (it doesn’t have, 100% sure, it is just an accounting trick).
Many companies in the network shows Vingroup’s ownership at 69-70%. We know this because Vingroup has to file reports. The other 30% will likely be owned by VIG, but since VIG is private, it does not have to report this figure. How do we know this? Look at the case of Lang Van, where Vuong Pham inadvertently showed his hand. Vingroup owned about 70% of Lang Van at the end of Dec 2022, and at the end of May, it now owns 99% of Lang Van. Clearly, Vuong Pham moved the 30% from VIG back to Vingroup. He is in short of cash (this is 100% sure), in control of Lang Van already, no need and no money to buy 30% from outsiders. It must had been transferred from VIG. Read more on this Lang Van in Part 1: Part 1: How Vuong Pham move companies ownership around like wood blocks : VinFastCommunity (reddit.com)
He has also unloaded many of the companies in VIC to 0%. He may have closed those, sold them, or he may have transferred them back to VIG (VIG is a group), recording some profit on the VIC side! VIG can take all the loss and debt as much as possible. No limit.
VIG is a black hole aka a mysterious and a huge object in the universe of companies by Vuong Pham. As the real black hole in physics, where nothing can escape from, VIG is the financial black hole with no information coming out.
If I have to bet, and I can bet the house, VIG sits on a huge loss to the tune of billions of dollars, but no one knows. Of course, I am not Vuong Pham, VIG is a the best kept secret of Vuong Pham, but base on my analysis shown above, base on what I have seen in many other cases in my past experiences, I guess / predict that VIG is at a huge loss. Proof? Just look at how VIG took in the $1B ICE plant as an evidence! VIG clearly did not have that amount of free money on hand, 100% sure, but it took the ICE plant in anyway because Vuong Pham could, at a huge debt and loss. And that is just one example. For the full company VIG, it won’t be surprise if the debt and loss are in the billions of dollars.
VIG’s role is to carry the loss for VIC and other Vuong Pham’s companies and pump fake profit into VIC when needed (for example, VIC was pumped with “financial gain” a few quarter back to turn red operating loss to a small profit, avoiding stock margin cut by the Vietnamese SEC). At astronomical levels, hundreds to billions of dollars. For example, in 2020, VIC recorded 28,600 Billion VND (about $1.2B) in financial profits just from transferring companies.
If you have friends working in fiance on wall street with 10+ years of experience at senior levels (junior level won’t know), send this post to them and ask them for opinions if I am right.
If you are not in finance and still don’t get how shady and serious this is, let’s this section sink in for a while. Come back tomorrow to re-read this.
Some of you have heard about VIG, but how many of you are aware of the ramification as outlined above?
For illustration: the two universes:
Summary
I have given you the visualization of the full network of Vingroup. Look at the network picture at the top of the post and you may find some patterns there yourself. May be you can find out something that I have missed.
Isn’t the entangled web of Vingroup “incredible”? Have you known about this before? Or have seen anything like this before?
And I have also unveiled the hidden black hole VIG for all of you to see.
Vingroup is a house of cards, building upon debts taken from shell companies. It will never be able to repay all the debts, just borrowing new debt to pay old debt. If the economy is good, it can still flip the debt when the debt matures and just pay the interest and keep going for 10 20 years or more, just kicking the debt down the road. When the economy gone bad and business gone bad, the debt will increase at a faster rate. Since the debt are borrowed again shell companies without real business using inflated values in real estate and mining and services, there is no cure. It was money out of emptiness.
The house of cards destines to crumble under the gravity of debt, i.e. the laws of business. Unless Vuong Pham can create his own universe with different laws of business, can’t he?
Exhibitions
Parents
Companies has 5 parents (1): Can Gio Urban
Companies has 4 parents (3): Sado, Sai Dong Urban Development, Delta
Companies has 3 parents (19): Vinpearl, Dai An Construction, Green City Development, DT PT Sinh thai, Thai Son Investment and Construction, GS Cu Chi, KCN Vinhomes, BDS SV Tay Hanoi, Vincons Construction, Cam Ranh Salt, DL Ca Tam, DT Hiep Thanh Cong, VinFa, Vingroup Investment Vietnam, Vin3S, Stone Doc Thang, Mineral Phan Thanh, DT Van Khoa, KD PT Sinh thai
Companies has 2 parents (16): Vincom Retail, Vinhomes, Hoang Gia Urban Development, Xavinco Real Estate Development, Thang Long Real Estate, Trung tam hoi cho trien lam, Vinitis, TV DT Vietnam, PT Lang Van, Vinpearl Landmark 81, Vinmec, Vinschool, SX KD Vinfast, VinHSM, DT Bao Lai, Stone An Phu
Companies has 1 parents (67): Vincom Retail Operation, Suoi Hoa Urban Development, Vincom Retail Landmark 81, Vincom Retail Investment, Central Park development, Xalivico, Metropolis Hanoi, Vietnam book, Thien Nien Ky, BDS Tay Tang Long, Gia Lam Urban Development, Berjaya University Urban, VT Vinbus, Vincom Security, Berjaya Financial Vietnam, PT TM SDI, Vincons2, NVY, S-VIN2 Vietnam, DT PT BDS Truong Thinh, Nha Trang Port, DT PT DL Phuc An, Vinpearl Australia, Cape Wickham Golflinks, Vinpearl Thanh Hoa, Vinpearl Hue, Vinpearl Lang Son, Vinpearl Tay Ninh, Vinpearl Quang Binh, Vinpearl Hotel Can Tho, Vinpearl Ha Nam, VMC Holding, DT PT VS, VinAcademy, VinMedTech, Vinfast Auto Pte, TM DV Vinfast, Vinfast Germany, Vinfast Engineering Australia, NC SX Vinsmart, Vingroup Global, Vingroup Investment, Vingroup USA, Vinfast Auto LLC, Vinfast USA Distribution, Vinfast Auto Canada, Vinfast France, Vintech, VINCSS, White Stone Bao Lai, Mineral Bao Lai Luc Yen, Vinpro, VinDFS, Vinfast Netherlands, VinAI, VinES, VinES USA, VinBigdata, Son Thai Investment, VinES Ha Tinh, World Academy, Vinsmart Trading and Investment, Vinfast OEM US, Vinfast Manufacturing US, Vinpearl Travel, Vietnam Grandprix, Vinsmart Ukraine
Childrens
Companies has 26 children (1): Vingroup
Companies has 22 children (1): Vinhomes
Companies has 11 children (2): Vinpearl, Metropolis Hanoi
Companies has 10 children (1): Vincom Security
Companies has 8 children (2): Green City Development, Can Gio Urban
Companies has 7 children (1): Thai Son Investment and Construction
Companies has 6 children (1): DT Bao Lai
Companies has 5 children (2): Sado, Thien Nien Ky
Companies has 4 children (3): VT Vinbus, SX KD Vinfast, Vingroup Investment Vietnam
Companies has 3 children (3): Vincom Retail, Central Park development, DT PT Sinh thai
Companies has 2 children (8): Hoang Gia Urban Development, Sai Dong Urban Development, BDS Tay Tang Long, VinAcademy, Vinfast Auto Pte, NC SX Vinsmart, Vingroup USA, VinES
Companies has 1 children (17): Vincom Retail Operation, Dai An Construction, Delta, Xavinco Real Estate Development, Vinitis, PT TM SDI, Vinpearl Australia, VMC Holding, Vinschool, DT PT VS, TM DV Vinfast, Vingroup Global, Vingroup Investment, Vintech, White Stone Bao Lai, Stone An Phu, Vinfast OEM US
Companies has 0 children (65): Suoi Hoa Urban Development, Vincom Retail Landmark 81, Vincom Retail Investment, Xalivico, Thang Long Real Estate, Trung tam hoi cho trien lam, Vietnam book, Gia Lam Urban Development, TV DT Vietnam, Berjaya University Urban, PT Lang Van, Berjaya Financial Vietnam, GS Cu Chi, KCN Vinhomes, BDS SV Tay Hanoi, Vincons Construction, Vincons2, Cam Ranh Salt, NVY, S-VIN2 Vietnam, DT PT BDS Truong Thinh, DL Ca Tam, DT Hiep Thanh Cong, Nha Trang Port, DT PT DL Phuc An, Cape Wickham Golflinks, Vinpearl Landmark 81, Vinpearl Thanh Hoa, Vinpearl Hue, Vinpearl Lang Son, Vinpearl Tay Ninh, Vinpearl Quang Binh, Vinpearl Hotel Can Tho, Vinpearl Ha Nam, Vinmec, VinFa, VinMedTech, Vinfast Germany, Vinfast Engineering Australia, Vinfast Auto LLC, Vinfast USA Distribution, Vinfast Auto Canada, Vinfast France, VINCSS, VinHSM, Vin3S, Stone Doc Thang, Mineral Bao Lai Luc Yen, Mineral Phan Thanh, DT Van Khoa, Vinpro, KD PT Sinh thai, VinDFS, Vinfast Netherlands, VinAI, VinES USA, VinBigdata, Son Thai Investment, VinES Ha Tinh, World Academy, Vinsmart Trading and Investment, Vinfast Manufacturing US, Vinpearl Travel, Vietnam Grandprix, Vinsmart Ukraine
Companies owned 100% by Vingroup: VT Vinbus, Vincom Security, VinFa, Vinpro, World Academy, Vietnam Grandprix
Companies owned 70% or more by Vingroup: Sado, Vinpearl, Green City Development, Xavinco Real Estate Development, Xalivico, Trung tam hoi cho trien lam, PT Lang Van, VT Vinbus, Vincom Security, PT TM SDI, NVY, Nha Trang Port, DT PT DL Phuc An, Vinpearl Australia, Cape Wickham Golflinks, Vinpearl Landmark 81, Vinpearl Thanh Hoa, Vinpearl Hue, Vinpearl Lang Son, Vinpearl Tay Ninh, Vinpearl Quang Binh, Vinpearl Hotel Can Tho, Vinpearl Ha Nam, VMC Holding, Vinmec, Vinschool, DT PT VS, VinAcademy, VinFa, VinMedTech, SX KD Vinfast, Vingroup Global, Vingroup Investment, Vintech, Vin3S, Vinpro, VinDFS, World Academy, Vinsmart Trading and Investment, Vinpearl Travel, Vietnam Grandprix, Vinsmart Ukraine
Companies in Real Estate (43): Vincom Retail, Vincom Retail Operation, Suoi Hoa Urban Development, Vincom Retail Landmark 81, Vincom Retail Investment, Vinhomes, Hoang Gia Urban Development, Central Park development, Sai Dong Urban Development, Dai An Construction, Green City Development, Delta, Xavinco Real Estate Development, Xalivico, Thang Long Real Estate, Trung tam hoi cho trien lam, Metropolis Hanoi, Vietnam book, Can Gio Urban, DT PT Sinh thai, Thien Nien Ky, BDS Tay Tang Long, Gia Lam Urban Development, TV DT Vietnam, Thai Son Investment and Construction, Berjaya University Urban, PT Lang Van, Berjaya Financial Vietnam, GS Cu Chi, KCN Vinhomes, BDS SV Tay Hanoi, Vincons Construction, Vincons2, Cam Ranh Salt, NVY, S-VIN2 Vietnam, DT PT BDS Truong Thinh, DL Ca Tam, DT Hiep Thanh Cong, Nha Trang Port, VinFa, KD PT Sinh thai, Son Thai Investment
Ownership percentage
Companies owned 100% by Vingroup: VT Vinbus, Vincom Security, VinFa, Vinpro, World Academy, Vietnam Grandprix
Companies owned 70% or more by Vingroup: Sado, Vinpearl, Green City Development, Xavinco Real Estate Development, Xalivico, Trung tam hoi cho trien lam, PT Lang Van, VT Vinbus, Vincom Security, PT TM SDI, NVY, Nha Trang Port, DT PT DL Phuc An, Vinpearl Australia, Cape Wickham Golflinks, Vinpearl Landmark 81, Vinpearl Thanh Hoa, Vinpearl Hue, Vinpearl Lang Son, Vinpearl Tay Ninh, Vinpearl Quang Binh, Vinpearl Hotel Can Tho, Vinpearl Ha Nam, VMC Holding, Vinmec, Vinschool, DT PT VS, VinAcademy, VinFa, VinMedTech, SX KD Vinfast, Vingroup Global, Vingroup Investment, Vintech, Vin3S, Vinpro, VinDFS, World Academy, Vinsmart Trading and Investment, Vinpearl Travel, Vietnam Grandprix, Vinsmart Ukraine
Companies by industries
Companies in Real Estate (43): Vincom Retail, Vincom Retail Operation, Suoi Hoa Urban Development, Vincom Retail Landmark 81, Vincom Retail Investment, Vinhomes, Hoang Gia Urban Development, Central Park development, Sai Dong Urban Development, Dai An Construction, Green City Development, Delta, Xavinco Real Estate Development, Xalivico, Thang Long Real Estate, Trung tam hoi cho trien lam, Metropolis Hanoi, Vietnam book, Can Gio Urban, DT PT Sinh thai, Thien Nien Ky, BDS Tay Tang Long, Gia Lam Urban Development, TV DT Vietnam, Thai Son Investment and Construction, Berjaya University Urban, PT Lang Van, Berjaya Financial Vietnam, GS Cu Chi, KCN Vinhomes, BDS SV Tay Hanoi, Vincons Construction, Vincons2, Cam Ranh Salt, NVY, S-VIN2 Vietnam, DT PT BDS Truong Thinh, DL Ca Tam, DT Hiep Thanh Cong, Nha Trang Port, VinFa, KD PT Sinh thai, Son Thai Investment
Companies in Consulting (5): Sado, PT TM SDI, VMC Holding, DT PT VS, Vinsmart Trading and Investment
Companies in Hospitality (14): Vinpearl, DT PT DL Phuc An, Vinpearl Australia, Cape Wickham Golflinks, Vinpearl Landmark 81, Vinpearl Thanh Hoa, Vinpearl Hue, Vinpearl Lang Son, Vinpearl Tay Ninh, Vinpearl Quang Binh, Vinpearl Hotel Can Tho, Vinpearl Ha Nam, Vinpearl Travel, Vietnam Grandprix
Companies in Tech (7): Vinitis, Vintech, VINCSS, VinHSM, Vin3S, VinAI, VinBigdata
Companies in Transportation (1): VT Vinbus
Companies in Security (1): Vincom Security
Companies in Healthcare (2): Vinmec, VinMedTech
Companies in Education (3): Vinschool, VinAcademy, World Academy
Companies in Auto (16): SX KD Vinfast, Vinfast Auto Pte, TM DV Vinfast, Vinfast Germany, Vinfast Engineering Australia, Vingroup USA, Vinfast Auto LLC, Vinfast USA Distribution, Vinfast Auto Canada, Vinfast France, Vinfast Netherlands, VinES, VinES USA, VinES Ha Tinh, Vinfast OEM US, Vinfast Manufacturing US
Companies in Telecom (1): NC SX Vinsmart
Companies in Investing (1): Vingroup Investment Vietnam
Companies in Logistics (1): Vingroup Global
Companies in Market research (2): Vingroup Investment, Vinsmart Ukraine
Companies in Mineral (7): DT Bao Lai, White Stone Bao Lai, Stone Doc Thang, Stone An Phu, Mineral Bao Lai Luc Yen, Mineral Phan Thanh, DT Van Khoa
Companies in Retail (2): Vinpro, VinDFS