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Bad Lieutenant is back
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Bad Lieutenant is back

Photo taken from the NME article (2009).

Oh... this really is funny. Even if it's for health reasons, Hooky's statement from just a day ago makes it even funnier.

Barney fans, would you still say Hooky always lies? This has reached a whole new level of irony. When Barney left New Order for Electronic, there was no New Order. When Hooky left? Hell no - they're still New Order. Can the irony get any greater? What first happens as tragedy repeats itself as comedy.

For years now, Barney has opened many shows by saying, "We're New Order." About 40 years ago, he said it to reassure people that they weren't Joy Division. It's even in their social media bios (including YouTube).

Description

New Order are Bernard Sumner, Gillian Gilbert, Stephen Morris, Tom Chapman and Phil Cunningham.

Biography

From the ashes of legendary band Joy Division, New Order triumphed over tragedy to emerge as one of the most influential and acclaimed bands of all time.

So... what are you now?

Edit:

I love New Order with all my heart, and I love Joy Division too. But Joy Division isn't Joy Division without Ian, Steve, Barney, or Hooky. And the same applies to New Order. I really hope it isn't because of health issues (though, yes, they've both gotten older). Wishing both of them and their families all the best.

Edit 2:

For those with a questionable sense of humor, here's what I find funny:

How the Bernard-like fans will keep shouting, "This is New Order!" - even if, one day, it's only Bernard left

How this announcement came just a day after Hook said they were about to split. Did he already know it was because of health issues? Or was the "health issues" explanation announced by the band's PR so it wouldn't look like there were stormy days in the New New Order camp? Is everyone telling the truth, or is someone leaving parts of the story out?

And many, many more questions that we may never get answers to

u/alvinofdiaspar0 — 7 days ago
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In space no one...

... can hear you scream!

Text on run-out groove :)

On 3 May 1993, London Records released New Order's sixth album, Republic. Recorded and mixed in Real World Studios, Box, Bath, and RAK, London. It was written and produced by New Order and Stephen Hague. Art direction by Peter Saville, designed by Pentagram. The artwork told the story - decadence and the destruction. Entered UK chart on 15 May 1993, remaining in the charts for 13 weeks, peak position was number 1.

25 August 1989 New Order play Reading Festival. It will take 4 years for New Order to play live together

February 1990 saw New Order record "World in Motion" at Real World

June same year, the Hacienda account show profit for the first time, £160,663 to be exact

Martin Hannett died on 18 April 1991. He never saw the end he had prophesied - the demise of Factory Records.

The Hacienda kept bleeding money, and so did Factory. The only hope was a new New Order album, as the band members and Rob were still guaranteeing the loans. Could the pressure build any more? There was a remaining dim light - traces of the band called New Order, now left in the ashes of its parts.

In August, Steve, Gillian, and Hooky started rehearsing at the "Farm", Steve’s and Gillian’s place. Barney was off having fun with Electronic, so the plan was that the three of them would rehearse and wait for him to do the vocals. By Hooky’s words (tell us more about that period as seen from Steve’s eyes, you who read his book), the three of them got along well and did some great work.

From March to November 1992, the band recorded the album at Real World. Factory Records went bankrupt on 20 November, and there it was - the end. Yet New Order and Joy Division were saved from London Records’ cannibalism, so they were signed on 23 December 1992.

Two studios: one with Stephen Hague and another with Barney. A lot of engineers and technicians, and so little of the band. Barney took 50% of the share; Rob had 20%, after which came Stephen Hague. Or was it? Only time would tell, yet years later, from that lonely time Barney spent in hospital and his wish of “I want to work with other people” came the final results. No New Order, Factory gone, they were on their own, doing side projects. The Other Two went on, Revenge and Monaco too, Electronic as well. The New Order dream shattered into pieces, and the band’s demise could begin in a proper manner.

u/alvinofdiaspar0 — 2 months ago