u/avskotl

Update on the chainsaw

Re PSA - do not use the 42V chainsaw from 5th August : r/AmazonVineUK

Much to my surprise, my review has been approved. I took care not to use words like "danger" and "unsafe", as I wanted the review to get accepted if they don't take the product down.

I'm now going to go through the "Report an issue with this product" process and I guess we'll see what happens...

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Edit: A good, short video of demo'ing what kickback is (40s in) and then slow-mo (1min 10s) of how the chain brake / kickback lever are supposed to work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKGqdTYfz6g

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u/avskotl — 8 days ago

PSA - do not use the 42V chainsaw from 5th August

I'm about to upload my review of this chainsaw to Amazon (which I fully expect to be rejected) and spotted another couple of Vine reviews that confirm that there is either a significant design or manufacturing flaw with this chainsaw.

If you've received this device please look into how chainsaw chain brakes work, have a look at my video, and you'll see that the brakes on these saws are wired in the reverse way to how they should work.

The left hand brake is supposed to be a kickback arrestor, which is if the saw kick backs (and flies toward your head) then your left wrist will force the switch forward, cutting power and enabling the chain brake.

With this device, the switch is wired the other way so power is only applied when the switch is forward so disabling the kickback arrestor. This is a potentially life-changing or fatal flaw. If your saw kicks back (which can happen in a fraction of a second) then there is nothing to stop it hitting your face.

I'm about to submit my review and I'll lodge a complaint with Amazon, but we know how poor they are with these kinds of requests.

So if you have received this saw, please look into how chain brakes work and, if you agree with my take, please go back and resubmit your review with an appropriate warning for others.

u/avskotl — 10 days ago

[contentious] Images to quality score relationship

Now that we have more data under our belts I went back in and reviewed my quality stats and one thing that was interesting was that every review that had images got scored "Excellent".

Of course, the thing with stats is that you can use them to tell any story you want and I would caveat this by remarking that it's extremely likely that I put more effort into the written review for anything I could be bothered taking photos of (or even creating a video), so it may be that images are just along for the ride.

One other, less-contentious, note is that my "Excellent" reviews have lower average star ratings than the batches of "Fair" and "Good" ratings, so I don't think there's much support for the evidence that you get down-scored for giving lower star-ratings.

u/avskotl — 26 days ago

Welp, I think the 1am drops are pretty much done with!

Feels like we've reverted to pseudo-random drops from around 6am, 7am ish

Can't say I'm going to miss reflexively reaching for my phone if I wake up at 01:06am now!

Also feels like the "two items per update" also seems to have gone away - I've had 1 item appear, then three new items (mostly tat, of course).

My feeling was always that responsibility for managing drops moved around Amazon support groups, globally, and that would explain the significant change in drop times every few months. Really felt like whatever group has had it for the last few months put in some automation but now it's moved to a different group who have reverted to pressing buttons.

(...other opinions are available...)

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u/avskotl — 27 days ago

RFY is two items per hour (possibly?) and brand affiliation?

This poorly titled post on the "other" Vine reddit has highlighted something I wasn't aware of, but in hindsight might be true - that we are now each being allotted no more than two RFY items per hour. https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonVine/comments/1umvj6l/fk_garvee/

Now that I look back, whenever I can be arsed staying up late this has a definite ring of truth: that I'll get two new RFY items at 1am, two more at 2am, two more at 3am etc.

Thoughts?

The other point is less evidenced, but I would say that having reviewed a lot of Bosch, Philips, Bluemars and Dong Cheng items in the past I do tend to see more of these than others report in the "What's in your RFY ..." threads.

That does seem kinda counter intuitive as it gives less spread across reviewers for a brand, plus I must admit that I will tend to take a similar item to one I already have because I don't want to be, for example, dropped off the Bosch list.

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u/avskotl — 2 months ago

What's in your RFY? Mon 1st June.

Been coughing all evening / night so just got up so I don't force my wife to divorce me.

The upside is that I can grab all the Dysons and Sony TVs while you lot sleep.

Unfortunately, as of 2am, they have been replaced with:

Industrial lavatory lock - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0GTQHG8GL - pass

Door knob - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0GTTNZVR5 - pass

3am edit:

Manual wire stripper (the ~10th in the last few weeks) - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0GXFJYV4B - pass

Planer blades - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0DKJYMTTJ - pass

4am edit:

Fakita battery charger - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0GV2SK825 - pass

... right I'm off to try and get some sleep - best of luck everyone!

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u/avskotl — 3 months ago

Return received for an item that was never returned?

This is a new one on me. Got an ok iPhone watch strap from AI a couple of weeks ago and wrote a 4 star review for it, but called out that you can't charge it on a desktop stand.

Just noticed that it's marked as "Return Received" in old-fashioned-Amazon, despite me never requesting a return (of course), not returning it and not receiving any messages whatsoever.

Of course, this means my review has been removed (not "unapproved", but completely removed).

Seems a new trick by an underhand seller?

u/avskotl — 3 months ago

Insights into the Review Quality Score

Note that the image is from my own reviews tracker - it's not a publicly available app or plugin (sorry!)

I finally got round to trying to make sense of the quality scores that Amazon is slapping on our reviews, and thought this would be of interest to others. Note that I'm not tracking which reviews have images (might do that in the future) so can't offer any info on correlation of images to Excellents, other than my current eval period has 32% evals-with-media (and 100% Excellent ratings). Edit: I went and added reviews-with-images, see later reply.

My takeaways (other opinions are available)

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First, the dominant signal is that Vine quality score seems to reward depth much more than it rewards star rating. Stars barely separate the buckets: Poor is still about 4.3, Fair about 4.6, Excellent about 4.4, and Good is 5.0 but on only 2 items. By contrast, review length separates them dramatically: Poor averages 39 words, Fair 58, Excellent 167. That suggests the quality score is probably reacting more to completeness, coverage, or detail than to positivity.

Second, the system appears heavily top-coded toward Excellent once a review clears some implicit threshold. Over 90% of scored items are Excellent, with very little in the middle. That makes me think this is not a finely graded editorial scale in practice. It behaves more like:

  • too thin -> Poor / Fair
  • detailed enough -> Excellent
  • Good is either rare or unstable as a category

Third, sentence count reinforces that this is about structure, not just filler length. Excellent is not only longer in words, it has far more sentences on average (7.9 versus 2.8 / 3.3). That hints the score may favour reviews that cover multiple points rather than just being verbose.

Fourth, price may matter, but seems to be secondary. Higher-priced items skew more Excellent, but I suspect that may partly be because they naturally invite longer, more detailed reviews. In other words, price might be correlated with score through review depth rather than being independently rewarded.

Fifth, the data is telling us more about the scoring rubric than about product quality. This page is not really saying “better products get better quality scores.” It’s saying “reviews that look more substantial get better quality scores.”

In summary:

  • the score looks weakly related to stars
  • strongly related to review depth/structure
  • probably threshold-based rather than nuanced

Not entirely surprising but useful to see the figures!

u/avskotl — 3 months ago