Splitting 3 days in kyoto between higashiyama and arashiyama, how did you actually pace it
Planning a first kansai trip for mid october, with kyoto getting 3 nights sandwiched between tokyo and osaka. What I can't sort out is how to actually split the days between the east side and arashiyama without one of the two feeling rushed.
Looking at a map it seems easy enough, but reading through old threads here the general take is that doing higashiyama and arashiyama on the same day burns most of your energy on the bus and JR transfers. People keep saying you end up arriving at the second zone tired and not really taking it in.
The options I've been weighing are basically these. A full east day (kiyomizu, ninenzaka, kodaiji, yasaka, maybe down to gion in the evening) plus a full west day in arashiyama (bamboo grove, tenryu-ji, monkey park if energy permits, then ryoanji and kinkaku-ji on the way back). The third day for fushimi inari in the morning and a flex afternoon for nishiki or somewhere I missed.
The zigzag version is east in the morning and arashiyama in the afternoon two days in a row, which looks like the obvious move on a map but most people who tried it say you eat close to an hour each direction in transit and arrive at the second stop overheated and out of patience.
The other thing tangentially related is where to base. Kawaramachi seems to win on access to most east-side stuff but is further from arashiyama. Kyoto station is fastest for arashiyama via the JR san-in line but the dinner scene there is a wasteland. A few of the operators I checked when researching the kansai stretch put you in totally different parts of the city for the same trip, each with their own logic for it.
Oku japan put us near karasuma oike to keep things central, selective asia recommended a higher-end machiya in the higashiyama foothills, and asia odyssey travel had us near kawaramachi instead because they said arashiyama is easier as a day commitment than as a base. Their pick looked a bit dated in the photos though, clean but very business-hotel.
Mostly trying to hear from people who actually did 3 days with both zones in the mix, especially whether the base mattered as much as people say.