u/blues_and_baseball

No matter what champ I play, no matter where I freeze the wave, no matter what strategy, starting item, etc. I try to employ, I am utterly useless against anyone that even remotely knows how to play Fizz. Even if I just sit under tower and try to CS the wave, a Fizz can just all in me with Q W and then E out from under tower before he even takes a turret shot. It's infuriating.

People will advise and be like "you gotta punish him when E is on cooldown" but that's utterly useless advice imo because to try and chase Fizz after you're slowed from his combo just feels like inting. His Q and W are effectively right back up as soon as you get within range of him because you're slowed, and when his E is on the 8 second cooldown it feels like by the time you reach him he can just do it all over again.

I really believe there's basically no window to trade with a Fizz player that even remotely knows how to play the champ. I 100% believe this champ is busted beyond belief and the E cooldown NEEDS to be nerfed to the point where it's like Vlad's W and you really have to think about when and how you use it, because 8 seconds just makes it totally brainless. I refuse to "just ban Fizz". Legitimately, what are the other options. From Iron all the way up to Plat I've never figured out a way to consistently beat Fizz, and anytime I manage to beat a Fizz it's honestly just because they seem like they don't know how to play the champ yet.

I have played Fizz myself even to try and see what his weaknesses are, and I really couldn't tell you what his weakness is. He can get away without CS'ing all lane phase because as soon as he hits 6 he can just one shot anyone in the game with his full combo, including champs that have already fed themselves heavily during lane phase, even if they're tanky.

I'm not asking how to beat Fizz in a teamfight. I'm sure the answer there is just to try and lock him down with hard CC once he uses his E, but first of all that's easier said than done if both teams are smart because enemy teams will just draw CC out on themselves so Fizz can go to work. I'm mainly wondering how to suppress Fizz as much as possible in lane, because again it just feels utterly impossible when he can just Q W you under turret and then E away without taking the tower shot and chunk you for half health before he even hits level 6. And don't even get me started on his combo once he hits 6. At that point you're dead no matter where you stand if he lands his ult.

I usually play vlad cassio or zoe. On vlad and cassio especially CS is important and the goal is to just scale hard. Not that CS isn't important on Kat, but from the few guides I've watched on her it seems her goal is more to go for skirmishes and fights and it's okay if she doesn't have great CS, unlike vlad or cassio. So it's a drastically different playstyle for me to get used to where I'm supposed to now be roaming and aggressive early rather than sitting in lane making sure I get my 8-10 CS per minute.

Is this champ viable against tanks? Again, I've watched some guides and understand her combos, but it feels like the damage isn't all that great unless I get fed on multiple kills early. If she's viable against tankier teams, what should her build look like? I've just been going off what u.gg says to build. So right now that's been lich bane first item, sorc boots, shadowflame

I've put in like 50k mastery on Kat at this point and still just feel like I suck with her. I get that her strength is to look for when CC has been used and then go in afterwards, but what if the enemy team just has a lot of CC? Is she not viable into those comps?

Any tips appreciated. I'm coming here wanting to learn so I hope I don't get people talking to me like I'm an idiot for doing so, which in my experience the league community is known for. I wanted to add this champ to my pool but after 50k mastery and still sucking compared to the other champs I play, it's getting more difficult for me to consider this journey worth it.

Additionally, if you guys found any guides anywhere or tips that you came across that really helped you out, please do share.

Fucking bullshit, there's no fucking way it should feel like this with only 80 players on this map. Yet I can't move without having to use all of my plates, maybe kill someone if I'm lucky, and then get 3rd partied by 5 other people where it feels like everyone in the lobby is just on my ass and my ass only at all times

That's all. Been waiting for solo mode for so long just to find out every fucking player is a pussy and needs to sit in a corner to have any chance