u/bouldytherock

If im known for anything or any specific takes, lay em on me as well.

I had to repost this due to reddit being ass and voiding my first one

To those who read this, drumless Kyogai>Prime, marked, red blade, stw Michikatsu

If any of my takes are popular, im curious which ones

Due to the agreement of not slandering Tengen and Shinobu between the sides (at least whoever actually is in the alliance), we have to decide what is considered "glaze" and "downplay" for our Hashira.

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Another thing, as per rules, we arent allowed to slander Shinobu and Tengen. However if lets say a Tengen fan also likes Giyu, and a Shinobu fan slanders Giyu, that wont count as a breach of the treaty. The alliance only applies to those 2 specific Hashira. Another thing, if a Shinobu fan say slanders Tengen, but said fan isnt the alliance, it wont count as a breach of the treaty and vice versa.

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If one wishes to purpose the rules of the alliance, they may give their opinion on it. We also eventually have to decide a scale for both of them.

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Also both Tengen and Shinobu brutalize a marked, STW, red blade, musical score, death amped Michikatsu

It has been long since both our goats have been downplayed to hell and back, and the constant fighting between the 2 parties has resulted in nothing but needless slander wars, while the other Hashira get off relatively free.

I purpose an alliance, a common goal we both share is to have our respective Hashira to recieve the respect they deserve. Thus, i do not see why we should not band together. Both Tengen and Shinobu recieve an extreme amount of slander (mostly from eachother), but that need not be this way.

Thus, through this alliance, i will cease my slander of Shinobu, and pardon all those among your people who have stained Tengens name. I will see Shinobu's scales, and grant her the grace she lacked from others. In turn, i ask the same to be done to Tengen.

2 of the most wasted upper ranks

Lets assume every Hashira here is marked, and Obanai's frail bones dont shatter under the weight of Shinobu standing on top of him

Is he stupid?

Left his wife and kids because he got pissy about being number 2, joined a guy he will never surpass just to be number 2 again (if Tamayo never left he would be number 3), cut down his own descendant, desecrated his own brothers corpse (who he didnt even manage to kill, age did), got packed by a blind monk, a wierd kid with a gun, a white haired scar guy and his own descendant, died when he realised how chopped he was, spent his last moments coping before being dragged to japanese super hell. His breathing style forgotten (half of it doesnt even work without his BDA). Brother of the strongest guy in the verse and STILL ended up a bum.

If we rank every Hashira, full power, marked, red blade, stw Michikatsu marks below Shinobu, with post kaigaku fight Jigoro outscaling both

The only good thing this bum did was kill Muichiro and ending his side of the bloodline (Muichiro is a fraud due to being genetically related to this guy)

For the mods: Tengen slams Shinobu

I will collect all possible arguments against my boy, and in time will compile another scaling post that attempts to combat all of it. Or you can adress the points i made in my original scaling post, thats alright as well. And if possible give me actual reasoning that isnt flimsy as "fought the weakest upper moon" while ignoring everything else about the fight.

Also Kokishibo is a bum.

Edit: specifically mean base rankings. So no marks or HTA