Do candidates really not know when the negotiation is over??

I'm responsible for hiring the engineers in my division. We prepared an offer a few weeks ago, and the back-and-forth was roughly like this:

Us: The interview was strong, and the team approves. Would a base salary of 118k plus benefits work for you?

Him: Wow, that's close, but I was hoping to get to around 126k.

Us: Okay, what do you think of 122k, and once you get your license, which is expected within the next 14 months or so, you get an automatic 6k bump?

Him: sounds great

I prepared the written offer, sent it through approvals, and it was sent to him after noon the next day.

Him: hey, after thinking about it, I'd prefer 128k.

That's not how this is supposed to go, right? The time to negotiate was before we agreed on the number. Coming back after the offer has been approved and asking for more just makes everyone annoyed and less excited about the hire. Am I being unreasonable?

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u/braggett — 3 days ago

The manager told me I have to stay an extra 90 minutes unpaid after every shift because "that's how it is."

My schedule as a supervisor is from 7AM to 3:15PM. A few days ago, the manager told me I'm supposed to work from 7AM to 4:45PM because I'm a supervisor and have to "put in my time." Crazy, right? Production ends at 3:15PM and everyone leaves then, so I asked him what exactly I'm supposed to do during that extra time. He said I should think of ways to make the line run better, but that my schedule is supposed to be like this from now on.

He also told me that if I don't like it, I can leave. And honestly, that made me say "woah" out loud.

I want to start applying somewhere else, but should I put this current job on my resume? I don't want to look like I keep jumping from one job to another.

edit: thanks to everyone for the tips I guess I will do it in my resume I also checked these tips on this sub it looks it can work in my upcoming interviews ,wishing good luck

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u/braggett — 10 days ago

They called me "impossible to replace." Then I asked for a small raise and they told me to "appreciate the opportunity."

Last week I worked 16 hours, canceled dinner with my sister, and didn't even have the energy to wash my hair; but yeah, I'm "impossible to replace." They treat me like the office printer. Everyone needs it, everyone complains when it stops working, and no one thinks it deserves maintenance.

I only asked for a 6% raise. You'd think I'd asked for the CEO's vacation house. They told me that appreciation is part of the values of our workplace culture. And I'm sitting there thinking: great, can I pay rent with workplace culture values?

My side hustle is trying to keep my patience from evaporating before lunch. My real job is pretending this isn't just exploitation with a Slack login.

If any of you still go to work every day and clock in, ask yourself: am I helping build their future, or burying my own?

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u/braggett — 17 days ago

The range was from $65k to $85k, they offered me 68 and I asked for 78... Did I mess things up?

Look, the job posting stated that the salary was between $65k and $85k. In the very first call, the recruiter surprised me (I'm a 29-year-old woman) and asked about my salary expectations. I was very afraid they would exclude me if I asked for too much, so I got nervous and said $68k. But the truth is, I was targeting a figure close to $82k, especially with my experience and how prices have skyrocketed these days.
After going through 6 rounds of interviews and waiting for a very long time, she finally called me today to offer me the $68k. Honestly, I got a bit mixed up in my words, but I managed to tell her that based on my experience and what other companies pay for this role, I was expecting something in the range of $78k.
She told me she would get back to the hiring manager but warned me that $78k might be too much, and we might reach $73k. I'm sitting here now very worried and thinking... Did I ruin everything? I feel it's a fair request and I know men do this all the time in negotiations, but I really need the money and I'm afraid I pushed too hard. I've read many posts about people whose offers were rescinded, and I'm terrified. What do you guys think?

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u/braggett — 1 month ago

The question "What salary are you looking for?" tells me everything I need to know in the interview.

I had an interview about a month ago, and I knew this question was coming. And sure enough, I was asked: "So, what are your salary expectations for this role?"

This time, I didn't feel like playing the game. I said: "Fair question. If you can tell me the budgeted range for the position, I can quickly tell you whether that works for what I'm looking for or not."

The interviewer gave a slight laugh and said: "Alright, we can come back to that point later." After that, I felt the atmosphere change. It became a little tense and less friendly.

And as I expected, no one got back to me about the next round. Honestly, I'm tired of companies that act weird about pay. They say things like: "We're more focused on development than compensation," and that usually means: "We're waiting for you to accept much less than you're worth."

update : its quite annoying really those people who wants you to work for pennies like you are working for fun not living actually I will do your advices and looking for remote positions and use interviewVIP with a wish to find better opportunities .

u/braggett — 1 month ago

I started ending interviews with the question: "Is there anything in my experience that makes you unsure I'm a good fit for this role?" and it made a big difference

I picked up this small habit about nine months ago, and since then I've told around fifteen people to try it, so I felt it was worth sharing here.
Quick background: I was going through a period where I kept getting to very advanced stages in interview loops but not getting the offer. The conversations would go well, the vibes were positive, and then either I'd get ghosted or I'd receive a polite, generic rejection email. I couldn't understand what was happening between "I feel like that went really well" and "we've decided to move forward with someone else."
So I started ending every interview with one question: "Before we wrap up, is there anything in my background or experience that makes you unsure I'm a good fit for this position?"
What this question does is bring any quiet hesitation in the interviewer's mind into the conversation itself. Most interviewers won't bring up their doubts on their own. They'll leave them in their heads for later when they're comparing candidates. When you ask this question, you give yourself one last chance to answer before the call ends.
The first time I asked this question, there was a slightly awkward pause, and then the interviewer said: "Honestly, yes. I saw that you haven't directly managed more than six people, and this job would have you overseeing eleven." I hadn't mentioned that because no one had asked me directly about team size. I spent the next two minutes explaining how I had built systems for a larger, cross-functional group in a previous role, and gave a clear example. It was obvious her tone changed. And I got the offer.
Another time I asked this question, the interviewer said she had no concerns. Totally fine. But the way she answered was quick and clear, so I left the interview feeling genuinely confident instead of doing that thing where you replay every sentence you said in your head until the next day.
Not everyone will answer honestly. Some people will say "no concerns" no matter what. But in my experience, about a third of interviewers will give you something useful, and that useful thing is often the exact objection you needed a chance to answer to.
I've gotten four offers in the nine months since I started asking this question. Of course, I can't say that one question is the reason for all of that, but I genuinely think it helped close gaps that could have been left open.

edit : I got this Idea after using this tool Interview VIP in my virtual interviews which is perfect especially for those who have zero job interview skill or got anxiety issues or their memory are bad because of its real time answers and very professional , good luck for everyone to get their dream job

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u/braggett — 2 months ago
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It's clear that Starbucks is now holding meetings against unions

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edit:Regardless of where you work, developing your skills remains important. for example open ai or Interview Man ai Just like you did, using a tool that helps you prepare better for any interview

u/Public_Steak_6933 — 2 months ago

Is anyone else feeling burned out from sitting in front of a screen at work?

I'm a software developer, and I was recently told that my role will be eliminated in about 4 months after a company reorg. I know I'm supposed to use this notice period to look for another dev job with good pay, and I've already polished up my resume and updated LinkedIn.

But every time I open a job board and try to apply for roles in my field, I feel like I'm hitting a wall. Like... I'm not sure I want to keep doing this?

It's a strange position to be in, because I understand how lucky I am to live in a time and place where I can earn a living this way. I'm not trying to say that writing code in an air-conditioned room is some terrible hardship. But it's become harder to shake the feeling that a lot of the "problems" I'm paid to fix exist in the first place because of a business process, or a subscription model, or an internal metric, or a product decision that created them to begin with.

I've spent most of the last 9 years solving artificial problems, and when I look back, the last job that felt clearly real was an entry-level customer-facing job where I was making about 1/5 of what I make now. I know not all software is like this, and I know meaningless work isn't exclusive to programming. But honestly, this whole bullshit jobs thing seems to show up a lot more when your entire professional life happens through a laptop.

Why are we building all this stuff, and whose life is actually better because of it?

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u/braggett — 2 months ago

The whole thing is a bit strange.
I mean, you'd think that when labor is scarce, salaries should increase. But no. All I'm seeing is companies slowing down hiring and acting like it's our fault.
The market isn't correcting itself at all. It's very strange.

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u/braggett — 4 months ago