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Okay so guys I’m rewatching GOT and since I finished reading the books a long time ago, I was really confused as to why they changed Jeyne to Talisa and was wondering if anyone else was kind of bothered by that change.

Second, can someone with more knowledge of the books explain to me why he wouldn’t be able to keep Jeyne or if we’re going show canon Talisa as a concubine because isn’t he supposed to be a king? I’m asking this because I’ve only read the series one time and I feel like there’s more people on here that have a better perspective and a better understanding of it all.

So just bear with me guys.

EDIT: Also wasn’t Talisa from Volantis and her family is part of the Triarchy? Couldn’t that have helped Robb show wise? Considering she’d be rich right?

What exactly is “dutiful lovemaking”? A lack of passion?
I find that odd considering they had like five kids, does this mean anything?

Guys insanely weird question, so I was thinking about Ned accusing Cersei of committing incest with Jaime. Do you think people in the north ever found it weird that none of Ned’s kid looked like him (except Arya) but even she wasn’t that close? I mean she was but compared to how people saw Jon she still lacked the part.

Wouldn’t anyone find it weird how the bastard is somehow the only one? I know the seed is strong and stuff but isn’t the stark seed also strong?

Then he accuses Cersei and it’s like but your kids?

Just a fun question.

I’ve gotten really interested in the Ned Stark and Ashara Dayne situation at the Tourney of Harrenhal, and I’ve talked about this with a lot of people. One thing I don’t quite understand is why so many fans dismiss the idea that Ned and Ashara could have genuinely fallen for each other there.

From what we know, Brandon was always meant to marry Catelyn, Ned was never originally intended for her. And there’s no clear indication in the books that Ned had any betrothal lined up at that point. So it doesn’t feel like a stretch to imagine that Harrenhal could’ve been the place where something real started for him.

We also know Ned was shy, especially around women, and that Brandon had to step in and ask Ashara to dance with him. That alone suggests Ned had some level of interest. Harrenhal wasn’t just a one-night event either, it lasted several days. It’s easy to imagine Ned and Ashara spending that time talking, getting to know each other, and forming a connection. Not necessarily something purely physical or impulsive, but something more genuine.

On top of that, from a political standpoint, a match between Ned and Ashara actually makes sense. House Dayne is one of the most prestigious houses in Dorne, and an alliance there would’ve been valuable. I could see Ned thinking along those lines too, that once Brandon married Catelyn and things settled, he could approach his father about a potential match with Ashara.

What I don’t really buy is the idea that Brandon was the one involved with Ashara instead. If Brandon knew Ned was interested, enough to literally step in and arrange that first dance, why would he then turn around and pursue her himself? That just doesn’t line up with how Brandon is portrayed, especially as someone who clearly cared about his family. It would feel out of character for him to go behind Ned’s back like that.

To me, it seems more plausible that Ned and Ashara could have had a brief but meaningful connection, possibly even believing it could lead to marriage before everything fell apart with the rebellion.

So I’m curious, why do so many people reject this possibility outright? Is there something I’m missing, or is it just that the fandom leans more toward other interpretations?