No shame!

For me, it was:

The family the pure greed the Christian chorus line

I didn’t understand it in the context of the song but as I read up on Cassandra I had more clarity. I feel like I should have gotten it faster than I did (not to invoke them but I was more focused on the mythology than Tay-LORE).

Damn she’s in a league of her own. Oh, TTPD.

Hi all,

We hope you're enjoying sunny days. This thread is for more off-topic conversation that wouldn't otherwise be a full post. Let's share the good, the bad, and the ugly.

FYI: This is where Debut content goes.

Rules still matter but quality of content is relaxed. Go forth, Swiftie Friends!

Is there something in your life that never happened or that you felt you didn't deserve or was just out of reach? Do you see it now? I was just looking back on the Eldest Daughter bridge (that always gets me) and how my younger self was so naive about how love worked and what it meant. I thought I knew but I didn't. I knew nothing.

It's evident this song is about Travis and how "me, myself, and I" expressed opinions about love that were dismissive or just irrelevant until she met Travis. This is a very significant theme throughout The Fate of Ophelia as well as the broader themes of TLOAS. There's nothing to decipher but it was just in my thoughts and I have a merry-go-round of lyrics in my mind.

TFOO:

"I swore my loyalty to me, myself, and I // Right before you lit my sky up"

(They collide)

Elizabeth Taylor:

"All the right guys promised they'd stay // Under bright lights they withered away but you bloom"

(The pattern of exes. It could all just be too much and she was resigned to that)

Opalite:

"You finally left the table // And what a simple thought // You're starving 'til you're not"

(Finally leaving a relationship that wasn't right and realizing it when you've come up for air)

Eldest Daughter

"When I said I don't believe in marriage that was a lie"

(Meet me at midnight - pretty self-explanatory)

Ruin the Friendship

"My advice is always ruin the friendship // Better that than to ask it all your life"

(Coming to the core of this theme of avoiding regret by staying safe)

Actually Romantic

"No man has ever loved me like you do"

(Playing up her past relationships and ordeals in love, she playfully mutes their importance for a moment to make her point. This also insinuates what her own tongue and cheek definition of romance is)

Wi$h Li$t

"I just want you"

(Not only is she professing her desire for a future with the one she loves, she's also letting go of the past here by stating that everyone deserves what they want and she warmly supports that notion, at least as long as she can have what she wants)

Wood

"All of that bitchin' wishing on a falling star // Never did me any good"

(Wood is a love song and one where she sounds incredibly happy. I didn't like it at first but it has grown on me. A lot. Either way, this is the third act of her growth in terms of relationships. She has now abandoned the pain caused by other people, put her own desires first, and is unperturbed by any potential threat to her relationship. In fact this hearkens back to themes in so much of her discography. This isn't a fairytale.)

Honey

"You could be my forever nightstand, honey"

(There's a line being crossed where she is allowing someone to do something that, in the past, was thrown at her without her wanting it at all. It was used in undesirable ways so the word is re-appropriated for this relationship and it's no longer a weapon.)

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POWER PLAYS

There are two significant threads running through TLOAS. The first is about walking away from "love" to find love that gave her everything she wanted and needed. This love involves mutual support, understanding, and a different take of what relationships look like or are supposed to be. The second important thread is the power play thread. It is separated out because it is on a parallel timeline following the narrative that she has grown to be too big to fail and fully recognizes this just as her relationship is ramping up.

Father Figure

"This empire belongs to me"

(Her own journey to the top is emphasized here. No longer does she need her former mentor, she managed to take back her power from it. In that way she is invincible.)

CANCELLED!

"But a shattered glass is a lot more sharp"

(There is a huge amount of self-confidence oozing from this song but there's also this underlying thread which we see in Wi$h Li$t and Eldest Daughter. She has become untouchable. Things that could hurt like the internet, coveting what other people have or resenting them for it and being ostracized are done. Feuds are done. She is flushing everything out. Social media. Judgment. Past loves and missteps.

The Life of a Showgirl

"And all the headshots on the walls // Of the dance hall are of the bitches // Who wish I'd hurry up and die // But I'm immortal now baby dolls // I couldn't if I tried"

Here we come to the conclusion. Taylor Swift's career has solidified her place not only at this point in time but forevermore.

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The most important piece of this album is that the more Taylor says yes to love, the more she flourishes.

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Lots has happened in the Taylor-sphere. Here’s a place to chat, which was inspired by reading some compelling thoughts about right where you left me. Until now, I wouldn’t be able to share my shower thoughts. We didn’t have space for that. So let’s start a new trend where we can share random thoughts and questions with each other. Boredom rents some space out here.

Hopefully the summer brings us nice things. All rules apply but we are lenient on off-topic as long as it is Taylor-adjacent. There is space for main character energy.

Enjoy!

In recognition of the crazy week we're in, I cooked something up this morning because who doesn't love busywork. I personally love statistics. Points are actually accrued. My test subject got 105/280 so please someone break that record.

I am admitting that this is off-topic but I found it fun to make and to take. I'll leave it up and see where it goes. The highest scorer(s) will, of course, get a custom flair.

I do want to communicate something on behalf of the moderators. We are working our hardest in order to ensure that this subreddit maintains core values and that we do not fall into the trap of misinformation, speculation, and rumours. Please be patient and you are always welcome to share your concerns or questions in Mod Mail.

As a reminder, she submitted:

1. All Too Well (10 Minute Version)
2. Blank Space
3. Anti-Hero
4. Love Story
5. the last great american dynasty

What would you have instinctively chosen? Are there any of these that surprised you?

What lyric really pushed it to the top!?

Desktop. How do I get rid of the Explore option that attempts to give suggestions for (not even close to compatible with the subreddit) content? I've been looking around Mod Tools and can't figure it out.

Thank you!

If you're interested, submit your answers using the link! Just wanted to share the opportunity!

This was inspired by two three things: the tabloids/outlets claiming details, the general fandom claiming details, and the clear stance from many Swifties that they value privacy.

Thus, we are putting a moratorium on wedding details if they seem speculative, possibly misinformed, or are simply just outlandish musings. Please don’t start with you know it’s in Rhode Island because you know someone from Rhode Island who has a cousin that overheard a conversation about the wedding.

Right now everything is fantastic but, as the alleged date approaches, there will be new faces (and familiar faces) getting caught up in the wedding aspect and all of this information.

There is a zero tolerance policy for starting alleged rumours at this time, even if they’re convincing half-truths. We may know the date. We may. We may know the location. Honestly, we don’t actually know much at all and clearly that’s how they want it.

The most exciting part is not musing about it. It’s about celebrating Taylor and Travis becoming life partners. Do you know how disappointing it is to have your dress(es) spoiled before you put it on the day of? She deserves a proper wedding with the same moments of whimsy and happiness.

This doesn’t mean you have to suppress excitement! We can’t wait to hear the news but, before then, please do not leak anything or give attention to what is (allegedly) being said about the wedding. Let’s just not ruin it for ourselves. She knows what she’s doing. She knows where and when to exit the custodian cart. Let’s cheer her on when she’s legitimately ready for that moment.

Thank you all!

Love and light,

Dassy