u/depressed_Kedy

For context: National Teams event match, I was using portugal team pack and opponent with a stacked France squad.

This started to happen way more often after v5.1 release. In some matches, my team lose all their physical presence, or opponent's player gets a physicality buff. As a result, their players are able to wrestle their way through my defense, and it becomes very hard, sometimes impossible, to defend. My defenders also cannot tackle, and run side by side with ball-carrying attackers. At first I thought it is due to some dumb skills like magnetic feet etc., but then realised players with no special dribbling skill are doing the exact thing. They were supposed to fix this with v5.0. But now it is back, and more frequent. You can see some examples in the video. Let me give some context to the clips:

1. This was a match against a former top 500 player with a dribbling and one-two based formation and attacking strategy. from the start my team showed no physical presence. After a while he realised he can just dribble through my defense, and he is a skilled one, and he destroyed me just by dribbling. You can see how Baggio keeps pushing Marquinhos, not losing pace or balance, and also too fast. I tried defending with various ways, marking, match up, call for pressure, deep line DMF etc, nothing works out. As a last resort I tried just pressuring and it didnt help either and almost conceded 8th goal straight from kick-off.

2. This clip is to show an actual physical player, Zlatan. It is not a surprise he can shield the ball. You will se that opponent players in different clips acts lilke Zlatan. No surprise, but Marquinhos has no effect etiher. I at least expect a slow down due to physical contact here.

3. From same match as clip 2. You can see that same shoulder-to-shoulder run. I cannot tackle him for a while with Gattuso, who has 90+ physical contact and also long reach tackle. Entire match was so tiring due to these kind of shoulder-to-shoulder runs.

4. From the same match as clip 1 (bad editing, my bad). I was defending without pressure, so my player didnt fall for the feint. Usually that double touch would fail because he bumps into my player due to bad timing, but instead my player gets neutralised and he gets away with it. After these moments he just kept doing same thing.

5. This clip is from events. I keep tackling, and my players keep failing to control the ball and his Sneijder keeps running like a bull and tackle it back. I won the match because hopefully he was not good at dribbling. Still, very tiring to play against. Also, how his uncontrolled players move is crazy. They press and defend by themselves.

6. How that Bale moves speak for itself. There is nothing to explain here imo.

7. Against a top 100 cross spammer. I couldt tackle that Yamal entire match. My players just kept running side by side with him and they ar cannavaro, Oddo, gattuso etc. . And that Yamal also didnt lose any stamina for 90 minutes. Just look at the time and the physicality he displays. Opponent realised it earlier and kept attacking like this entire match. Manmarking etc nothing worked because he was untouchable.

8. And this one is just comical. Gattuso doesnt tackle at firts, then Arda Guler moves through him. I chase him a while, then catch him in my box, then suddenly Arda gets the strength required to wrestle with Gattuso after that 60 meter dash.

I know some people will say its skill issue, connection issue etc. But same exact mechanics take place in different matches in different events in different days with a stable connection between 4-5 bars, and this mechanics result in the same disadvantage on my team every single time. In divisions it usually results in a loss, sometimes my team just hits a ceiling and my next few matches become a torture due to this inconsistency. Something should be done about it.

 have been playing PvP divisions for the last 2 days. Before that I was playing 1-2 matches per dayand not pay attention to details. Played like 20 matches in D2. And I have noticed so many issues that I decided to record and share with the community, also decided not to play divisions anymore. This post is the 1st one of the series I plan to share. I have never felt so disgusted while playing a PES series game before.

For context: I play possession, 4213 with prolific wingers and attacking fullbacks. I usually attack by playmaking, passing and creating pockets between opponents defensive blocks, use hole players and prolific wingers to make runs into half spaces or pockets and use pivot strikers to increase playmaking ability. I use some feints, finesse dribbling and left stick dribbling to change direction and keep possession against approaching defenders, especially on the wings.

Now it is impossible to play this way because defense is so heavily automated that timing and playmaking is absolutely useless. Before this v5.1 releases we needed to use match-up to block, pressure to tackle an free movements to position our defenders. Now look at the pictures I shared, these are d1 players. Half of my opponents are perfectly defending by a single command. They are tackling without using pressure, blocking without match up. The one with most pressure is playing with %15. Some doesnt even use match-up either. rest of the players I faced are playing with %70 or above pressure. Simply, you can defend with a single command now. Defensive side of the game is completely automated that it is no different than playing against SA. They just run towards you with ANY PLAYER to defend and if you do feints they are not effected because they dont use pressure, iff you make a pass defenders blocks it automatically and if you try to shield or run away defender just dash with 100 speed 100 acceleration tackle with perfect timing. or they will play with %80 pressure, your feinst will fail with slightest lag, and if you pass they can block by using pressure button. All you can do is to force pingpong through center and pray for a defensive error.

Wingplay has never been so dead. I cannot use my prolific wingers or any kind of wingers at all. I used to playmake on the wings to create pockets in the center or create space at the opposite wing. Now it is not possible because players are just too fast while defending. I cannot even wait until my attacking fullbacks join to the attack. Game is forcing me to play ping pong or spam double touch. there is simply no other way.

Also I cannot playmake at the back because attackers are as good as defenders when it comes to defending. Someone will just grab a Pele or Messi and tackle the shit out of your midfielders, defenders and even sometimes they chase your strikers with their attackers. When I attempt to build attacks from behind, my DMF and CB's (Puyol and Cannavaro, botha re quick with high balance) becomes so clunky and heavy that until I turn aorund to pass to the other side opponent attacker runs 15-20 meters and tackles the ball. Sometimes they even run faster than the ball.

Defensive stats have become absolutely meaningless. Someone can put a Hazard as single CM, then use 1 AMF and 4 attackers and never face or feel a defensive weakness. Game will turn that Hazard into Vieira, despite having 45 defensive awarenes, 45 tackling, 45 defensive engagement and 45 agression. AMF runs back to every space you create and intercept the ball despite having 45 defensive stats.

Another big issue is game is covering every tactical huge mistake made by people. you can see some exmples in the photos I shared. For example somene will play 4114, and leave entire midfield empty and open, but you cannot use it because AI covers all those defects in any way possible. You will see a single DMF cover entire midfield, or fullbacks to move to center, or even attackers drop deep to cover those spaces. Someone will put every player into the center without using a single fullback or winger, but you cannot use those spaces on the wings somehow. Center backs act like fullbacks and midfield drops deep and AI covers it all. And they defend almost perfectly because it is automated maybe even more than SA. It is actually more effective than setting up a balanced normal defense.

Last thing is inconsistency. Everything has become inconsistent in defense. Everything is situational. I watch Rijkaards run faster than Messi/Neymar. I can feel defensive AI of my team altering from match to match. I play high-line defense to playmake but when opponent gets the ball my players starts running back for no reason like I play LBC, and leave huge spaces for opponent attackers. they dont obey the team playstyle or their own playstyle. This forces me to play with a low block static defense. Which I will never do. I prefer not playing the game instead of playing pingpong meta.

There is simply no nuance left in the defending side of the game. Using Destroyers or Build Ups doesnt really matter anymore. Using Attacking Fullbacks or Fullbacks Finishers doesnt really matter anymore. Even using Wingers and actual midfielders doesnt really matter. If you lack CM, put Hazard or even Zola there. If you lack fullbacks, put a CB. You can just make a 70 meter pass to you striker from your defense. Timing of your pressure or match-up doesnt really matter, actually not needed at all. Midfield is for decorative purposses. Everything is too simple and too fast. To make an analogy: Playing a PES/eFootball game was like watching a movie before, now it feels like watching Tiktok videos. Fast, cheezy, repetitive and not satisfying at all.

I have been playing PvP divisions for the last 2 days. Before that I was playing 1-2 matches per dayand not pay attention to details. Played like 20 matches in D2. And I have noticed so many issues that I decided to record and share with the community, also decided not to play divisions anymore. This post is the 1st one of the series I plan to share. I have never felt so disgusted while playing a PES series game before.

For context: I play possession, 4213 with prolific wingers and attacking fullbacks. I usually attack by playmaking, passing and creating pockets between opponents defensive blocks, use hole players and prolific wingers to make runs into half spaces or pockets and use pivot strikers to increase playmaking ability. I use some feints, finesse dribbling and left stick dribbling to change direction and keep possession against approaching defenders, especially on the wings.

Now it is impossible to play this way because defense is so heavily automated that timing and playmaking is absolutely useless. Before this v5.1 releases we needed to use match-up to block, pressure to tackle an free movements to position our defenders. Now look at the pictures I shared, these are d1 players. Half of my opponents are perfectly defending by a single command. They are tackling without using pressure, blocking without match up. The one with most pressure is playing with %15. Some doesnt even use match-up either. rest of the players I faced are playing with %70 or above pressure. Simply, you can defend with a single command now. Defensive side of the game is completely automated that it is no different than playing against SA. They just run towards you with ANY PLAYER to defend and if you do feints they are not effected because they dont use pressure, iff you make a pass defenders blocks it automatically and if you try to shield or run away defender just dash with 100 speed 100 acceleration tackle with perfect timing. or they will play with %80 pressure, your feinst will fail with slightest lag, and if you pass they can block by using pressure button. All you can do is to force pingpong through center and pray for a defensive error.

Wingplay has never been so dead. I cannot use my prolific wingers or any kind of wingers at all. I used to playmake on the wings to create pockets in the center or create space at the opposite wing. Now it is not possible because players are just too fast while defending. I cannot even wait until my attacking fullbacks join to the attack. Game is forcing me to play ping pong or spam double touch. there is simply no other way.

Also I cannot playmake at the back because attackers are as good as defenders when it comes to defending. Someone will just grab a Pele or Messi and tackle the shit out of your midfielders, defenders and even sometimes they chase your strikers with their attackers. When I attempt to build attacks from behind, my DMF and CB's (Puyol and Cannavaro, botha re quick with high balance) becomes so clunky and heavy that until I turn aorund to pass to the other side opponent attacker runs 15-20 meters and tackles the ball. Sometimes they even run faster than the ball.

Defensive stats have become absolutely meaningless. Someone can put a Hazard as single CM, then use 1 AMF and 4 attackers and never face or feel a defensive weakness. Game will turn that Hazard into Vieira, despite having 45 defensive awarenes, 45 tackling, 45 defensive engagement and 45 agression. AMF runs back to every space you create and intercept the ball despite having 45 defensive stats.

Another big issue is game is covering every tactical huge mistake made by people. you can see some exmples in the photos I shared. For example somene will play 4114, and leave entire midfield empty and open, but you cannot use it because AI covers all those defects in any way possible. You will see a single DMF cover entire midfield, or fullbacks to move to center, or even attackers drop deep to cover those spaces. Someone will put every player into the center without using a single fullback or winger, but you cannot use those spaces on the wings somehow. Center backs act like fullbacks and midfield drops deep and AI covers it all. And they defend almost perfectly because it is automated maybe even more than SA. It is actually more effective than setting up a balanced normal defense.

Last thing is inconsistency. Everything has become inconsistent in defense. Everything is situational. I watch Rijkaards run faster than Messi/Neymar. I can feel defensive AI of my team altering from match to match. I play high-line defense to playmake but when opponent gets the ball my players starts running back for no reason like I play LBC, and leave huge spaces for opponent attackers. they dont obey the team playstyle or their own playstyle. This forces me to play with a low block static defense. Which I will never do. I prefer not playing the game instead of playing pingpong meta.

There is simply no nuance left in the defending side of the game. Using Destroyers or Build Ups doesnt really matter anymore. Using Attacking Fullbacks or Fullbacks Finishers doesnt really matter anymore. Even using Wingers and actual midfielders doesnt really matter. If you lack CM, put Hazard or even Zola there. If you lack fullbacks, put a CB. You can just make a 70 meter pass to you striker from your defense. Timing of your pressure or match-up doesnt really matter, actually not needed at all. Midfield is for decorative purposses. Everything is too simple and too fast. To make an analogy: Playing a PES/eFootball game was like watching a movie before, now it feels like watching Tiktok videos. Fast, cheezy, repetitive and not satisfying at all.

Looks pretty good. You can build him with good dribbling and he comes with very effective skills, low screamer and phenomenal finishing.

He is my favorite winger. Playing with him is a joy. Amazing dribbler, can make amazing early crosses and score crazy curlers with high curl stats and of course special Neymar JR ID. Only drawback is his very low physical contact. I overcoe it by possession play and team set up. Playing him with a pivot striker, creative playmaker and an attacking fullback gives him enough passing options to avoid physical duels, and he moves into the pockets like a snake. My build is below.

Peace!

I got this Totti from 1 Billion Campaign. I play Possession and Quick Counter. I tried him at LWF, SS and AMF with different builds. Here are my notes:

1. Do not waste progression points on passing. I gave him 90+ passing stats but I did not see much effect. In that sense, he is much more suitable for dribbling and shooting, rather than pass distribution and playmaking. You can find my build below.

2. His shooting is amazing. He is a reliable long ranger. Hic long range curlers are different, kinda stronger. Curlers, stunning shots, chip shots, he is good at all.

3. He has a special dribblimng ID. He pulls of nutmegs so smooth, and sometimes it feels like he has momentum dribbling. He also has good physical contact to protect the ball.

4. I get the best out of him at SS. His model and ID also suit better this role. At AMF his effectiveness depends on team playstyle and how do you play. I find him ineffective in a passing dependent possession play. But when I play QC with 4213 he is great for counter attacks. I also use him as LWF and He performed surprisingly good. He is not the finst dribbler there, but he is great for playmaking and finishing. He can make some crazy passing and link-up too.

5. he lacks some crucial skills. I added Fighting spirit and long range curler as crucial skills. rest depends on how you plan to use him.

Peace!

Info: Against a d1/d2 dweller with 4222 LBC, one-two and double touch spam through center. I started with 4213 Possession, conceded 3 goals from center in 1st 10 minutes and then switched to 3232 possession to defend and control the center better. Rest is in the clip.

He was not using SA by the way, you can switch to finesse right after clicking to shoot button.

he feels like an epic card to be honest. A great CM to carry the ball, pass around, shoot and playmake. Clips are from first test matches against legend AI but he performs even better in PvP where very few people actually use midfield to play. I can literally dominate the game with him and another good midfielder alongside him, like Sneijder. If you are thinking that one player does not worth 2000 coins, just know that this pack has 2 players that can easily make into an f2p squad.