u/doublebass120

How to tell if an EEV needs to be replaced vs low refrigerant

It's me again, https://www.reddit.com/r/heatpumps/comments/1tombrq/humidity_spiking/

I'm located in Queens, NY, and we just experienced a pretty brutal heat wave, which is why I was able to troubleshoot as much as I have.

Now I have a better description of my issues with my 1st and 2nd floor mini splits. I sent this information to AI chatbots and I'd like to double-check their conclusions instead of blindly trusting them.

The following intake/exhaust temperatures were taken with a probe thermometer. The coil temperatures were taken with an IR thermometer. The line set temperatures were measured on the surface of a 6" section of exposed copper pipe with a FLIR camera. These temperature readings were taken after the system had been on for about an hour.

1st floor - taken around 1:20 PM @ 95°

All indoor units were set to 70°F/cool mode/auto fan speed. Around 10 minutes after I turned the indoor units on, I noticed that the kitchen and bedroom liquid lines frosted for about a minute, then thawed. They didn't refreeze for the 20 minutes I was outside. The living room liquid line set did not freeze.

Both Claude and Gemini agree that Fujitsu's liquid line sets are supposed to be colder than their gas line sets - exactly the opposite of my Mitsubishi (attic) system, which I currently don't have any problems with.

  • Outdoor unit - Fujitsu AOU36RLXFZ - installed spring 2014
    • Intake temperature - 93.9°
    • Coil temperature - 104.9°
    • Exhaust temperature - 104.5°
    • Ambient temperature - 95°
  • Kitchen - ASU12RLF
    • Intake - 81.6°
    • Coil - 57°
    • Exhaust - 68°
    • Liquid line set - 64.8°
    • Gas line set - 77.7°
  • Bedroom - ASU7RLF
    • Intake - 80.4°
    • Coil - 60°
    • Exhaust - 72.6°
    • Liquid line set - 64.1°
    • Gas line set - 73°
  • Living room - ASU18RLF
    • Intake - 82.2°
    • Coil - 82°
    • Exhaust - 80.9°
    • Liquid line set - 54.1°
    • Gas line set - 89.2°

Issue: Living room does not cool off. Claude and Gemini both think I need to replace the living room's EEV. I have not tested the EEV with a multimeter yet, I want to look up where it is in the outdoor condenser before I tinker around.

2nd floor - taken around 10:20 PM @ 85°

Around 10 minutes after I turned the indoor units on, I noticed that the 3x bedroom liquid lines frosted for about a minute, then thawed. They didn't refreeze for the 20 minutes I was outside. The family room liquid line set did not freeze.

  • Outdoor unit - Fujitsu AOU36RLXFZU - originally installed spring 2014, replaced summer 2022 or 2023
    • Intake - 82.7°
    • Coil - 88.7°
    • Exhaust - 93.7°
    • Ambient - 85°
  • Bedroom 2 - ASUH07LPAS - replaced summer 2022 or 2023 - set point 70°
    • Intake - 72.5°
    • Coil - 46.2°
    • Exhaust - 45.6°
    • Ambient - 75°
    • Liquid line set - 66.6°
    • Gas line set - 58.7
  • Bedroom 1 - ASU7RLF - set point 68°
    • Intake - 70.5°
    • Coil - 47.4°
    • Exhaust - 51.8°
    • Ambient - 74.8°
    • Liquid line set - 65.2°
    • Gas line set - 74°
  • Main bedroom - ASU9RLF - set point 68°
    • Intake - 80.4°
    • Coil - 60.6°
    • Exhaust - 69.8°
    • Ambient - 81.5°
    • Liquid line set - 63.9°
    • Gas line set - 76.7°
  • Family room - ASU12RLF - set point 70°
    • Intake - 84.9°
    • Coil - 84.9°
    • Exhaust - 83.3°
    • Ambient - 82.2°
    • Liquid line - 58.6°
    • Gas line - 82.8°

Issue: Main bedroom takes FOREVER to cool off - sometimes it never reaches the set point, it'll be around 70° by 9 AM. I've noticed that I need to run all 4 indoor units in order to get all of the rooms to cool off. If I don't run the family room AC, the main bedroom almost immediately starts spitting out warmer air.

Claude thinks I need to replace the EEV for both the main bedroom ("partially open") and the family room ("fully closed").

Gemini insists that I'm low on refrigerant and that mini splits act weird (7k BTU units are given refrigerant first, then the main bedroom, and the family room is starved) when there's low charge. I disagree with Gemini, I've had low charge in the 2nd floor system before - none of the rooms cooled off when this happened.

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u/doublebass120 — 23 hours ago

Humidity Spiking

We're located in Queens county, NYC.

Last week, May 18th to the 20th, we experienced an unusual heatwave. Overnight, I ran my mini splits and every single night, the main bedroom's humidity kept spiking, sitting at over 60% for a majority of the night.

I bought a set of gauges on Amazon and checked the pressure myself when it was 85°F outside. With the system off, I was reading 220 psi (the outdoor unit's label says "design pressure, low side = 240 psi"). With all 4 indoor heads running at 64°/cool mode/high fan speed, I was reading ~77 psi (research tells me it should be around 120 psi, and this indicates I'm low on refrigerant).

I also ran a single indoor head (bedroom 1), and noticed a foul odor, warm air from the supply vent, and humidity increased rapidly. This went away when I turned the main bedroom and bedroom 2's ACs on.

I contacted my usual HVAC company and they came out on Friday, May 22nd, when it was 60-65°F outside. They checked the pressure and claimed that everything was fine. They ran the system at full blast (64°/cool mode/high fan speed) for about 20 minutes, used an IR thermometer and saw that the temperature inside the supply vent was 64°F, and said the compressor's good, "because it's not struggling". They suggested I use dry mode instead of cool mode to see if that would help the humidity issue, and then left.

Last night (May 25th) was very humid, so I decided to follow their advice and set the main bedroom's AC to 64°/dry mode/auto fan speed at 10PM, then changed it to 68°/dry mode/auto fan speed at around midnight. The humidity remained at >60% the entire night.

What should I check in order to investigate this issue?

Here's the floor plan, with model #s:

Floor plan with model #s

May 18th-19th, overnight:

May 18th-19th, overnight

May 19th-20th, overnight:

https://preview.redd.it/msbr32at0k3h1.png?width=2938&format=png&auto=webp&s=26b934f37c5d8a2ce6dba0827f42c2c5c7e0f641

May 20th-21st, overnight:

May 20th-21st, overnight

Last night (May 25th-26th, overnight)

May 25th-26th, overnight

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u/doublebass120 — 1 month ago