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Refining Silver with a Sulfamic Acid System

Six months ago, I started learning and experimenting with silver refining using a sulfamic acid system because nitric acid is difficult to obtain where I live.

My setup per cell:

  • 50–70 g sulfamic acid
  • 1.5 L DI water
  • 20 g MSG additive
  • Stainless steel cathodes submerged, with approximately 8 × 8 cm of surface area per cathode face
  • Mixed silver feedstock (95%, 92.5%, and 83.0%) cast into anodes
  • Low current density (~0.5 A range)

This is my first time doing any of this, so there have been plenty of mistakes and learning experiences along the way: furnace issues, contamination, poor melts, forgetting to remove base-metal pieces, chemistry mistakes, silver melting problems, filtration challenges, and of course a few spills.

From the first 500 g batch of material, I've recovered roughly 300 g so far (~60% recovery) and still have approximately 160–180 g of material remaining in process as feedstock, silver-bearing powders, slimes, filters, and solutions. The full lot consists of approximately 7 kg of sterling silver and another 3 kg of 800/830 silver.

I've been tracking every run, so I started building my own Android app specifically for this refining process.

Current features

  • Cell management
  • Harvest logging
  • Bleed/populate event tracking
  • Photo capture
  • Voice notes
  • Inventory management
  • Waste-stream tracking
  • QR labels
  • Knowledge library containing information from a separate subsystem, including data extracted from US Patent 3616332
  • Local Ollama AI integration

Instrumentation and monitoring

  • DPS-series programmable power supply telemetry
  • pH monitoring
  • TDS/DI water quality measurements
  • Temperature logging
  • Current and voltage tracking
  • Mass-balance and yield tracking
  • Photo-based run documentation

I'm also working toward a low-cost silver composition/purity analyzer to help estimate electrolyte condition, contamination levels, and feedstock composition without relying on expensive commercial equipment.

The project has evolved from "How do I refine silver?" into "How do I build a measurable, repeatable, and data-driven refining process?"

The long-term goal is to build a closed-loop refining system that combines process logging, instrumentation, inventory management, waste tracking, analytical tools, and knowledge management. The objective is to understand where every gram goes, reduce losses, improve recovery rates, and continuously refine the process through measurement and data collection rather than guesswork, so I rely less on memory and maintain a proper record of runs, changes, observations, and yields.

It's still very much a work in progress, but it's already helping me manage multiple cells, runs, and experiments while building a better understanding of the chemistry and process behavior.

Photos attached show various snapshots from the past six months, including cell development, harvested crystals, anodes, instrumentation, and the software ecosystem being built around the refining process.

I'm curious whether anyone else here has experimented with sulfamic systems and what crystal morphology you're seeing compared to nitrate-based electrolytes.

u/entropica_foundry — 14 days ago
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I built a custom drum trainer app to learn Gojira and Dream Theater polyrhythms. No subscription traps, just a pure practice tool

I wanted to learn complex drum tracks (Gojira, Dream Theater, LOG, Slipknot and zappa) on my TD-02. Melodics was expensive (€30/mo) and Clone Hero almost made me break my PC, so as a software engineer with 10 years of experience, 2 of them working with AI-developer only, I did the sane thing and whipped Cursor IDE on auto mode to build my own app. It features a gaming note highway, live sheet music notation, a minimap, practice loops, and custom MIDI imports and more features.

The core engine will be 100% open-source, and if I end up liking the app enough that it fully substitutes my Melodics subscription, I might make the final app a 1-time sale around $30—but that is an IF.

Platforms currently supported:

  • Web: Full support (running Web MIDI and currently testing heavily for ease of use)
  • iPad (Air): Since I don't have a Mac and am developing locally for iOS, it's taking some time to optimize performance on huge tracks.
  • Windows: I can build a desktop application, but it'll show up as an untrusted executable unless I pay for a certificate.
  • Android: I can easily support Android devices too.

If anyone is interested in testing it out, let me know in the comments so I can start preparing the builds!

u/entropica_foundry — 3 months ago
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Refining 7 kg sterling silver to 99.9% - what % fee is standard?

Hey everyone,

After my sulfamic acid electrolysis experiment worked, someone has offered me 7 kg of sterling silver items (jewelry, flatware, etc.) to refine to 99.9% pure silver.

I'm planning to:

Melt the steeling into bars first (using MAPP torch + crucible) or an electric furnace

Refine in batches using sulfamic acid electrolysis (~100 g/L)

Use stainless tub as cathode non magnetic

Hopefully harvest ~6.0–6.2 kg pure silver after ~6% processing loss (given no issues arise, and they always do)

So my question is, what % of the fine silver content is standard for a refining fee on lots like this, or the fee to refining this lot

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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u/Then_Marionberry_259 — 4 months ago
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Identifying 74g sterling rings

​I recently acquired these two massive, incredibly detailed full-finger articulated sterling silver armor rings from a local estate auction. Together, they weigh roughly 148 grams (approx. 74g each). Length-wise, they completely cover a middle finger.

​Initially, I bought them as raw refinery feed for a micro-refining and casting setup I am launching. However, the moment I saw the level of workmanship and cleaned up the tiny hallmarks on the inside of the bands, I realized these are highly unique pieces that deserve preservation. I am planning on putting them up for international auction once I can properly identify them.

​I have spent the last 48 hours cross-referencing these stamps with friends, AI databases, and local groups, but I keep getting conflicting guesses (ranging from Vivienne Westwood to "Lord Python" 70s stainless steel—which these clearly are not, as they are legally stamped precious metal).

​I took high-magnification macro photos of the hallmark row on both rings attached. (forgive my shitty photography skills)

What I have gathered from the statutory UK stamps so far:

925 in an oval frame (Sterling Purity).

The Leopard's Head (The statutory town mark for the London Assay Office).

Lowercase letter c in a square shield with clipped corners. According to the London Assay Office charts, this definitively marks the production/assay year as 2002.

My Main Question for the Experts Here:

Who is the silversmith or luxury design house behind the LP sponsor mark registered with the London Assay Office in 2002 for heavy-gauge avant-garde/gothic jewelry?

Some collectors suggested it might be early archival work associated with The Great Frog (London) or a related boutique British rock-and-roll silversmith of that era. I would love to identify the exact collection name, designer identity, or historical context of this specific cobra/spine articulated motif so I can list them accurately.

Thank you so much for your time and guidance! Have a great day.

u/Then_Marionberry_259 — 5 months ago