Thicker Plane Iron in Victor #5 Problems.
EDIT: SOLVED (tldr, loose chipbreaker). For posterity, the issue was not with the angle of the bevel at all, or the sharpening of the iron. I was not tightening the new chipbreaker screw enough and the chipbreaker was sliding down past the iron in use. I'm not sure how I missed this in use aside from the fact that I didn't have my glasses on. I actually noticed this when I was troubleshooting but I thought that I had just done something careless while setting up the blade and, after "fixing" it, I tried a few different frog angles, etc before trying again and apparently the same thing happened. After really cranking down on the screw I was able to set the plane up and take some nice shavings. Thanks for looking.
SECOND EDIT: Thanks for all of the feedback about my laziness on the chip-breaker positioning. I will do more to try different positions. I typically use my planes just for milling and not finishing so I've neglected things like this while struggling to get things flat. To that point I now have a #4 that I don't use very much.
Hello all,
I have an old Stanley Victor #5 which was my first plane and while it works great I was curious about new irons so I thought I'd give it a try. It seems like almost all of the ones that are sold nowadays are thicker than the oem irons (thought I'm probably not looking everywhere I could). I wasn't sure how well that would work with the Victor so I went for a cheap option: one of the Jorgensen O1 steel irons on Amazon.
I set up the iron as best as I could: flattened it, sharpened it on the primary bevel and then until I had a good burr, stropped it, etc (i didn't put a secondary bevel on it). I did the paper tearing test and had good results, cut the tip of my finger accidentally, all the usual stuff. BUT, I cannot get the iron to cut in the plane at all... even on the western red cedar I'm building a table from. I did move the frog all the way back to clear space in the mouth and have my chipbreaker about 2mm back from the edge of the iron.
- Does having a thicker iron cause the cutting angle of the blade to change?
- Could it be the way I sharpened it combined with the frog's angle is causing only the bevel to touch the wood rather than the tip of the blade?
edit: forgot to mentioned that I needed to get a longer chipbreaker screw to make the iron attach to the chipbreaker. I did do that in order to get this setup working.