u/formersad_elder

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The need for young men is overwhelming. If I weren’t a PIMO, I’d feel flattered.

As my history shows, I was once an elder, unjustly removed, and that opened my eyes, from giving speeches at assemblies to being removed overnight for going against the CO. Anyway, I’m in my 30s now. I spent my 20s as an MS (Ministerial Servant) and Elder. Now that I’m “nothing” anymore, I’m unfortunately still a PIMO due to family reasons.

Now, the elders who removed me (the ones who arrived, ousted the entire old BOE, and now run the congregation) want to talk to me. They insist on visiting me, helping me, wanting me to start working for them again. There are no MSs in the congregation; the sound team keeps messing with meetings because the current members lack experience. The elders themselves handle all the speeches, do the readings, pass the microphones, and so on.

There’s an urgent need for men everywhere, and specifically for men who actually know something. With this culture of “you don’t need to know anything, you’ll learn it all here,” they lead the young men to believe they’ll learn useful skills, but in the end, they know nothing. I know a 25 boy (because have boy mentality) doing everything for Elders without any title, he left school 8 years ago and do nothing with his life, living with parents, but is an example for the rest.

As for me, I thank those elders for removing me; otherwise, I never would have opened my eyes. But now, leave me alone. My wife wants to go out preaching, but every time they see me, they want to talk or invite me out to the ministry. Ugh, I just want to sit in the back and be invisible. It's so hard.

It hurts the organization to lose capable men, who have skills and initiative, but in this case, it’s their fault. I used to do everything: in the congregation and at the assemblies. Never again. Find someone else. Or think twice before defending evil old COs and losing the young ones.

Sorry, i'm just venting, thanks for reading.

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u/formersad_elder — 1 day ago
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PIMO removed as elder, can’t convince my wife yet

Hey, hello everyone! For those who don’t know me, some time ago I shared my situation. I was removed as an elder along with the rest of the body, because we tried to bring justice against another member of the body who was clearly committing atrocities in the congregation, harassing women, making indecent proposals, etc. but he had protection from those above, and that’s why they removed all of us. In the end, that made me fully wake up.

I’ve been PIMO for a while now, although my family knows I’m not as enthusiastic as before. The point is that my wife is super upset about everything that happened, since she witnessed some of those things. Even though the family is very PIMI (despite knowing all that, they still believe that eventually everything will be fixed), she has doubts. But when I try to mention something to open her eyes, it’s like a protective shield activates and she convinces herself again that it’s God’s organization.

I find myself in a slow process of trying to help her wake up, though I know that if we leave, our whole family will be against us. Right now, I’d say she’s PIMQ, she speaks badly about the elders, etc., but at certain moments, when I mention something, her defenses kick in.

The level of manipulation is impressive. I always thought of myself as intelligent and independent in thought, but clearly I wasn’t. Although now that I think about it, being able to break free from that control on my own has its own merit.

If anyone has advice, it’s appreciated. Thanks for all the support you give here.

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u/formersad_elder — 3 months ago