u/hordaak2

So....I make Ai songs for self consumption in that I just love to create new music since Im not getting that from the current generation of music. I make it two different ways:

1. Upload music I created myself, and have Suno make it better. ALOT better. Like.....1000% better. It understand what im trying to do, matches the notes exactly, and sings with a style I tell it to, but with a expert level singing.

2. Create a prompt and lyrics, and Suno surprises me with a song. I do not control the melody or harmony directly. It decides that unlike option 1. I dont choose the notes, my prompt only describes types of instruments, singing styles, and musical influences

Now, im an amateur, and will never be an expert musician. But, Ai enables me to make (what I think) is pretty good music. But, there is the problem. In option 2, Suno made music based on existing music, and essentially copied it. IF ai music becomes more popular, the next iteration will be a copy of a copy. Then again, a copy of a copy of a copy.

Many folks here have NEVER used or owned a non digital copier in their life. A copy of a copy on a copier gets more distorted and lower quality with each iteration. It starts losing information, it gets fuzzy....just loses its soul.

Im afraid prompt based music, where the ai is trained on ai music will be just like that. Copies of copies. Originality will be gone. Nothing will feel special anymore. Everyone will have their "copy". And guess what? Nobody will give a rats ass. When they hear your prompt generated song, they will think I can easily make this too.

Will there be another new genre of music? Like rap? Or grunge? How could there be? 80s Rap music was made from the OG 70s music. Punk rock music was made by rebelling against what rock music has become. How the hell can you make punk rock music style revolutions today, with...a fucking prompt???????? You cant. Only more of the same shit. Then copied shit...and it goes downhill.

Im saying this as someone that experienced the birth of alot of new music genres. As a kid it was disco and punk, then rap hair band rock, new British invasion, goth type music, electronica like Depeche mode, then grunge, 90s punk, emo...etc...each was fascinating and organic. And reflected society.

Ok..long winded. So...how can Ai be used to not ruin music. Go with option 1. As a tool to help bring music to life. You would maybe learn a tiny bit of music theory. Learn an instrument. THEN Ai can help round out your song where you might not be as proficient. New ideas that werent learned by ai can still exist.

BUT..if we stick with option 2? Purely prompts? Music will suck. And our kids music? Will sound like your music. And that is the WORST fucking thing I can think could happen. Because if the new generation doesnt make some completely new music that I hate...then theyre doing it all wrong. (That example is because my dad hated rap, his dad probably hated rock and roll....etc..)

End of rant

So, I tried uploading an old song I never finished to SUNO about 4 days ago. It comprised of my vocals, drums, and my electric guitar (all physical). It was about 12 years old and I haven't listened to it for awhile. I then wrote the lyrics of the song, and for the style I put 2000's emo, emotional singing, with guitars and bass, with an overdrive pedal. On the advanced options, I turned weirdness to 15%, kept style influence att 50%, but put audio influence at 65%. OH DAMN!!! It was MAGICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Suno understood exactly what I was trying to play and sang the vocals exactly I how I wanted it

2. The music was professional level. It took my very amateur music and elevated it to expert level...at least to session artist level

3. Suno understood the overall composition and put it together flawlessly and improved on it a bit. The parts where I could not figure out the next chord, it did it for me.

I played the song non-stop for 2 days straight. At work. In my car. Before I went to sleep. For the next 2 days I then did it with my whole damn music collection of about 30 songs. Each one was just absolutely incredible.

Now before this, I used Suno to take written music, give it a prompt, and just see how it would intepret it. Some worked. Some didnt. BUT I relied on the random result. The problem with that is you are relying on RANDOM results and your only creativity is your written words and prompts.

That is a huge issue. Not much control. Alot of people are complaining about the results and say Suno isn't producing what they want....and then saying they hate the program.

Well....with the feature where you can upload or RECORD your own voice, you can have more direct impact on the quality of the output. It will look at you to "train" it.

I now think of Suno as....a studio session with expert musicians. You direct it with very precise instructions from your own voice, or instruments. The more input you provide aside from just the lyrics and prompt, the better the outcome. UNLESS all you care about is random output and hope it is good. But in my opinion....where is the creativity? Does that satisfy the creative requirements you have????? If so, then that's great. BUT....if you want better results that aren't random, personal creativity and musical proficiency is BACK!!!!!!!!! Take that ai!!!!!!!