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Image source here! Holy fucks are they HOT

This was about translating an English webtoon into Indonesian, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case for every language across the board. Including from Korean to English.

So if no one in that translation team could translate a manhwa, then it's just. Stuck there. No reaching out to the creators or the editor for each specific manhwa about it.

And who knows the background of that translation team's members? While it's great that it would mean there's not much Korean culture-specific references that the translators would miss, the fact that there are quite a bit of errors in manhwa's official translations is concerning.

Also great to discover that we can spam that email for requests to get some untranslated manhwas on the platform, I guess.

I get that readers want whoever made the MC suffer to go through the same pains and hopefully learn to never make the mistake again, but that really is about as effective as corporal punishment on a kid. Sure, the kid learns to never do that specific thing, but do they know exactly what was the mistake? More likely afterwards that they'd go off and do the same stupid thing, but different in exactly what they're doing.

These kinds of characters who grovel and do the big crying will find it incredibly difficult to admit their mistakes, so much so that when they're called to address it at their worst, they WILL be in denial. They will deflect, avoid admitting their most egregious mistakes so that once everything calms down, they can do that again under malicious compliance. And the same song and dance probably will start again.

I get that the dramatization of the act really is for the readers to feel the emotions, but really, I find these kinds of grovelling arcs disgusting. Apologies alone aren't enough. Is it enough to make someone stay around? Yes, at least to give the grovelling party some grace. But what happens afterwards when the same mistakes happen again?

You know what would've been better? Actual change. See them actually do better.

It's like menstrual pains. I don't need men to feel just how painful they can be in order for them to help. I just need men to understand how it is and actually try to help once they understood. The same goes for the characters the readers wish they'd grovel. Apologize, and really do better as time goes on. Reflect on what they did and improve their actions based on that. Otherwise, if consequences were just about pain, then prison and rehabilitation wouldn't even exist.

Take this guy. Did he suffer even a single thing his wife went through? The physical and emotional pain? No, nowhere near that. Did he understand what he did wrong? Yes!

It took a very long while and circumstances so unfortunate he shouldn't have been given another chance, but he understood. What he did wrong, what he should've done, no going back trying to justify himself or trying to downplay what the other was going through. A genuine apology. He understood exactly what he did wrong, to the point he recalled the pains of those unfortunate events again when he really was going to lose her, and he panicked trying to avoid doing the same mistakes again.

What are your thoughts on this?

Example (also the sources) :

A : Dorian [Hooky] gets interested in what his love is interested in.

B : Ludwig [The Villainous Tyrant has Returned]

Give everyone in here something different from these generic hairstyles, I beg all of you! Everywhere I look, it's been any of these 8 and I'm sick of them! (There's another one, but I'll let it slide since it's historically accurate)

Source (clockwise from top left):

1 : [Who Made Me a Princess], [The Sword-Bearing Flower], [Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint], [The Villainess Flips the Script]

2 : [I've Fallen for the Empire's Greatest Villainess], [Not Your Typical Reincarnation Story], [I Failed to Oust the Villain], [How a Villainess Survives as a Saint]

Here's mine! (Also the sources for the images) :

1. Lelouch vi Britannia [Code Geass : Lelouch of the Rebellion] : He was RAISED in that lords and ladies environment! And considering his smarts, if there was anything he's aiming for specifically in the OI story (ESPECIALLY if anyone's touching his sister), it's so freaking over for everyone.

2. Ardyn Izunia [Final Fantasy XV] : He's not particular to court intrigues, but he's absolutely MESSING EVERYTHING UP for shits and giggles.

(There's a TL;DR if you guys want to be quick)

You know me. Massive fan of The Villainous Tyrant has Returned, posted about it here several times, recommended it to everyone, and may even catch me simping for Ludwig (the MC)? As you all know... (or not, in which case, today is the day you finally know)

It has been axed.

Ever since then, I've been DESPERATE for another... anything that has a character like Ludwig. But wanting a character that's just like him would be too specific. That's when I finally realized why I loved this manhwa so much.

Ludwig's just a more pathetic version of Hooky's Dorian Wytte! He was tugging on the nostalgia strings!

So I want a nerdy, book smart, adorkable ML that's also honest with their feelings, where the story has the ML's personal struggles as part of the main story!

TL;DR I liked The Villainous Tyrant has Returned's MC because he's similar to Hooky's MC, and I want more nerdy, book smart, adorably socially awkward and not emotionally constipated MLs like them, whose personal problem is the main story.

Bonus if your recommendations have a sweet FL who vibes adorably well with the ML due to similar interests.

Source :

1,3,4,6,7,10,12 : The Villainous Tyrant bas Returned

2,5,8,9,11,13 : Hooky