u/inchoiring_mind

Grew up in a canoe ALL the time. Want to resume. My wife and I backpack, so we want a light canoe for easy portage if we're at chains of lakes.

-arguably 2.5 person, we might take a niece/nephew, might take a 50 pound dog (don't know yet-- she loves wading a LOT, don't know if she likes boats)

-I don't think we want something that, like, it would be irresponsible to take on a river or where we might bump a rock; we won't be doing whitewater

-my wife did *not* grow up boating, so we want a pretty steady boat.

-we aren't racing or going anywhere complex; but we don't want the maneuverability of a cargo ship if we can avoid it

It's primarily the tradeoff between the last two that I'm here for advice on. I'm lucky enough to have a pretty big budget, particularly if I buy a used one. It looks to me like Wenonah Kingfisher (16'), retired 16' fisherman, and 17' boundary waters are probably the 3 for me to consider. But...I haven't been *in* any of them.

How big are the differences in stability between the 3?

How much change in maneuverability comes with those differences?

Are there other brands' models that are competitive with these 3 that I don't know about?

Thank you!!!

I'm a (M40) well spouse. As we all do, I have a lot of caretaking responsibilities. I'm also thoughtful, and do a lot of things that make my wife's life easier.

I have a close friend who is in a situationship with...a guy who is absolutely not bringing enough to the table (but, she pointed out, is definitely better than any of the other options over the last few years). I asked "has he ever seen something that would be helpful for you or make your life easier, and done it, without you needing to ask?"

Her answer was

"He saw that my electric toothbrush was out of battery and he put it on the charge cord, which was thoughtful. He didn't see that the cord wasn't plugged in, so I had to look for the toothbrush and it was still out of battery, but it was still nice. " I know the bar for men is low, but come on. This woman has a PhD and incredible emotional skills.

I don't even know if any former-well-spouses would still be in this forum. But does a man who was a well spouse and brings like a third of that care and energy to a subsequent dating relationship just absolutely blow the competition out of the water?