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Image 1 — People who've never seen the show; do you think this character looks androgynous? Do you think it's a boy or a girl? (Answer in the comments)
Image 2 — People who've never seen the show; do you think this character looks androgynous? Do you think it's a boy or a girl? (Answer in the comments)
Image 3 — People who've never seen the show; do you think this character looks androgynous? Do you think it's a boy or a girl? (Answer in the comments)
Image 4 — People who've never seen the show; do you think this character looks androgynous? Do you think it's a boy or a girl? (Answer in the comments)

People who've never seen the show; do you think this character looks androgynous? Do you think it's a boy or a girl? (Answer in the comments)

To be honest I have no idea if this is the right place to ask because this is a random cartoon character that I did not draw, but this is the third place I'm checking and the other two didn't seem like I could post it there.

Anyways so, this is a character from a cartoon I watched as a kid and I've been rewatching it recently. Since I've already watched the show and have known the character since my childhood, I didn't notice it at first but I think they have a very androgynous design. (At least more androgynous than Kris Dreemurr lol.) On one hand, they have long hair and makeup, but on the other hand their attitude and facial expressions make them look boyish.

For more info: This character is 6-11 years old (not really specified) and they are made of negative emotions (hence why they are so edgy and fight-loving). They switch between being an antagonist and helping the heroes. I also think they look like a hedgehog lol.

If you know the character and want to comment, please mark it as spoiler and/or refer to the character with neutral pronouns so people's opinions don't get affected!

u/issizsahis — 3 days ago
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Cute mistake in the Turkish dub

Y'know the scene in "All In The Villainy" episode where Fink and Darrell fall on the table and complain to their bosses about each other? Originally, Darrell screams "Daddy! Daddy!" while Fink screams "Boss! Boss!" (I couldn't really make out what she said in the English version but this is what the transcript says) However, in the Turkish dub, she also says "Daddy! Daddy!" which I think is really cute.

Notice how she said \"baba (dad)\" instead of \"patron (boss)\"

(Also I think they censored Boxman's "incinerating" idea because he says "I often see the improvement later" instead of saying "after incinerating them")

(UPDATE: I watched the "Deep Space Vacation" episode and I think they also censored the word "die" even though they originally managed to get that in.)

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u/issizsahis — 6 days ago
▲ 3 r/okko

"T.K.O. Rules!" Episode Review & Character Analysis

Hi! This is my first review (and I don't know if I will write another one again) and I'm only writing this to get it out of my head. Also English isn't my first language so there might be some mistakes. And keep in mind that I didn't finish the show yet. (Or even if I did, it was years ago. Don't give spoilers please! If you do, I'll read it after I finish it.) AND I don't know what you guys talk about here so everything that I explain might be things you guys already know.

TL;DR at the end

My overall thoughts on the episode

I don't think there is a lot to say about the episode itself, I think it was just to show how unreliable T.K.O. is once again, maybe this time with more impact because we were supposed to think that K.O. won him over in season 1 finale, and it was a setup to shove him into K.O's subconscious. He opened up to K.O. after season 1, they helped each other, but I just don't think T.K.O. has the capacity to befriend anyone, even if that someone is his own self.

"I can fix him!"

I think the main reason K.O. was disappointed in T.K.O. was because he didn't understand him enough. Honestly, I think T.K.O. was right when he said "but they don't SEE me!" in episode "KO's video channel", there seem to be very few people that get him. He tried talking about his feelings, Shadow Figure told what he was exactly supposed to be, and yet K.O. thought he could fix him. I don't think T.K.O. is something K.O. can just "fix". If he is made of K.O's negative emotions, then I assume that he can't quite feel positive emotions. To me, he doesn't act like he can. Most likely just a relief when he lets out the negative ones. I'm not even talking about how this would most likely drive someone mad, but I think this would explain most of his actions. I want to talk more about this in the "subliminal drawings" section. But for this part, I think it's enough to say that he most likely could not feel any mercy, compassion, gratitude or anything that could make him feel attached to a person (no shit). He especially acted pretty ungrateful when he dared attacking Carol, the one that raised him, in the episode "T.K.O." and attacked K.O. after everything he's done for him in the episode we're talking about. (Tbh it's more like an analysis of T.K.O. right now rather than a review of the episode but hopefully we'll get there) In conclusion, I think T.K.O. cannot be fixed because he's unable to feel any attachment to anyone including K.O, and I think because he wouldn't even TRUST anyone because of his nature. (Again, I want to talk more about this in the "subliminal drawings" section, but that might turn into theorizing a little.)

The ending and the possible consequences

To be honest, I think what K.O. did at the end of the episode was pretty stupid and will backfire on him. First of all, he probably will need T.K.O's power again, and when this happens and K.O. goes to ask him for help, I don't think he will be so calm about it. I'm sure he'd try to kill K.O. the moment he saw him. For the plot, K.O. would somehow get the help, but there would be some sort of consequence like T.K.O. trying to take over the body permanently or hurting someone K.O. cares about. Also, I'm sure being in the subconscious with no stimuli would drive him extra mad over time, and he seems to be in a pretty desperate situation already. Like I'm pretty sure that's worse than being in the cage because there was at least stimuli (K.O-vision) when he was in the cage. (Tbh I don't know for sure if there is any stimuli in the subconscious but it seemed like there wasn't. But he would still try to kill K.O. if he saw him so my main point remains.)

Subliminal drawings

Now, this might be the main reason why I'm writing this. For those who don't know, there are four "subliminal drawings" that flash across the screen in this episode, made by one of the storyboarders according to the wiki. To be honest, I didn't even notice any of these drawings when I first watched it, but later I caught (some of) them after learning that they exist. The wiki has the pictures though. Now, let me talk about the pictures as someone who is interested in psychology (and is aiming to study it in university). These drawings seem to be T.K.O's own drawings canonically. In the first one, he seems to be taking away K.O's cookie and bullying him, in the second one, he's destroying a city, and in the third one, he's hovering around the Earth with people screaming for help. Those are getting more and more violent gradually. But the one that's the most significant to me is the last one, because he goes from drawing himself destroying stuff to drawing himself crying and pulling his hair, with the words "I can't stop". Now this COULD mean "I can't stop being violent and I feel regret" but this would be heavily out of character imo. So I think what he means by that is "I can't stop feeling bad and crying". I would consider the "I can't stop destroying stuff and it's affecting me too" because of the other pictures but the wiki says these drawings show his motives for a later episode so this hasn't happened in the story yet.

Now, when I analyze these pictures, all I see is a kid with high insecurity. First of all, based on my psychology knowledge (that could be totally wrong btw), negative emotions, especially anger, mainly exist to protect the body and mind. So if T.K.O. is those feelings, I assume that he feels unsafe most of the time. People, especially kids, may dream about hurting things or people in order to feel powerful and safe, which seems to be T.K.O's case to me. Ever since I started rewatching this show, I did have the idea that T.K.O. might just be a big ball of insecurity because of his anger, and these drawings seem to say just that. (Still, might be wrong tho.)

Extra notes

I think K.O. put T.K.O. there not because he did something unforgivable and worse than anything he had done before, but because he disappointed him after gaining his trust (no shit, again). I don't think just shoving your negative feelings into your subconscious is the solution, especially after learning how to use it to your benefit. (Still, I think having control over T.K.O. and trying to understand him in previous episodes was pretty big emotional awareness for a kid that age.)

I really liked the "GRRRRR" sound T.K.O. made at the end of the episode when he was pushed into the subconscious. Awesome voice acting there!

Anyways thank you if you read all the way here. May or may not see you in another post again, bye!

TL;DR:

  • K.O. thought he could fix T.K.O, but if he understood that T.K.O. most likely cannot feel positive emotions or attachment to anyone, he wouldn't think that and be disappointed later.
  • What K.O. did at the end of the episode can backfire on him because T.K.O. would try to attack him if K.O. needed his help later and visited him. Also, if there is no stimuli in the subconscious, this could worsen T.K.O's mental health over time.
  • T.K.O. is a big ball of insecurity because he's made of negative emotions and especially anger becomes active when someone feels unsafe. His drawings also seem to support this idea. Remember: Bullies are often the most insecure people.
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u/issizsahis — 8 days ago