u/kazkh

Anyone know how hard an underground Operations Technician (Fixed Plant) role is?

The description’s a bit vague as it’s entry level: ‘In this position you will help minimize the impact to unplanned downtime and also work on planned day-to-day upkeep and maintenance of the materials handling system.’ Just wondering if anyone knows how physically yards mentally hard this kind of role is. Offsides roles can seem alright in job descriptions until you read from people actually working there to know how hard it is.

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u/kazkh — 1 day ago

A book on mining unionism’s rise and fall in the Pilbara from the 1960’s onward

The book explains how rank-and-file Pilbara iron ore workers built powerful unions in the 1970s and 1980s through strikes and solidarity that ignored timid union bureaucrats in Perth and Canberra, governments and Industrial court. Through militant conflict with management, they won major improvements in pay, safety, and working conditions from stingy mining companies who would lose ten of millions of dollars through strikes when they refused to improve conditions.

Union decline then began under Bob Hawke, who directed unions to cooperate with companies/management to share prosperity under the Accord by avoiding strikes and turning to the Industrial Commission for disputes. Companies and profits thrived. Then they turned on the unions in the 1986-7 Robe River dispute. Rank-and-file workers wanted massive strikes but were prevented by union bureaucrats in the cities and the Labor government. Ultimately the unions lost by not using their power. Companies then offered enormous pay increases on individual contracts above union-negotiated rates, all as a way to de-unionise the industry once and for all.

He argues that today only about 5% of the mining workforce is unionised. The few areas where unionism still remains quite strong, like coal mining in QLD and NSW, have the best worker conditions, lower sexual harassment and better pay. The least unionised mines are in WA with less worker freedom, except for train drivers who earn more with more time off than un-unionised train drivers.

u/kazkh — 4 days ago

How hard is it to break into mining surveying?

I plan to career change into mining eventually on a 1:1 roster, likely as a geology assistant, Trade Assistant or the longest path of all- surveying. The other paths require no qualifications, where as surveying would require 1-3 years of study (TAFE Cert IV > Diploma > Advanced Diploma), attending classes 3 full days a week and working in a survey company on other days, then moving into mining as soon as possible.

The main mine in South Australia is BHP’s Olympic Dam, so it’s underground copper, uranium and gold mining.

I’m just wondering how difficult it is to get employed as mine surveyor when you’re starting from scratch (Eg. how much experience do you need before getting in? How competitive is it?). In my previous career I never anticipated how difficult it is to actually land a job in the field or to gain experience, so I‘m trying to avoid making the same mistake again.

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u/kazkh — 5 days ago

Do you prefer working for the mining company or the contractor for the same role?

Eg. for mine surveying, you can be employed directly by the mining company like BHP or by the big surveying companies that send their workers to the mine site for specific projects.

Is there much difference between working for a contractor or working directly for the miner? The one possible advantage I’ve been told by a recruiter is the chance for internal transfers to other roles if you’re employed by a miner.

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u/kazkh — 14 days ago

Looking at Seek (Australia’s main JobSearch website), I don’t recall seeing a degree being required. From ‘survey assistant’ with no qualifications, up to ‘senior surveyor’ with high Salaries ($150-200K) requiring just a Certificate or Diploma from TAFE.

Curtin university’s mining school is one of the best in the world for entering mining, so I assumed they’d have a mining surveyor degree but nope, it’s an elective in an engineering degree.

The job requirements are always x years of experience and proficiency in using (xyz) software.

Am I missing something, Eg. maybe people with a Bachelor’s degree can ask for a higher salary?

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u/kazkh — 20 days ago
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To my understanding you’ve got a big responsibility running the massive processing equipment crushing and transforming rocks and isolating the valuable minerals. If things go wrong it’s a huge problem. How stressful is it when that happens? Are there always people around to help you solve the problems, or do you need to solve it alone?

It’s something I plan to move in later but don’t know how I’d cope if there’s a lot of stress.

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u/kazkh — 26 days ago

I’m middle-aged so I assume there’s no point aiming for any apprenticeships? My university degree’s unhelpful for mining. I’m not strong enough for continuous physically strenuous work like being a offsider or even some utility roles (developed serious RSI years ago as a FIFO kitchen hand strenuously scrubbing pans all day long).

*Resource Processing* seems pretty interesting and I‘ve started learning the process from online books. *Survey Technician* also seems pretty interesting to me as you get to walk around assisting the surveyor.

I found out about these roles by chance in a TAFE booklet, and I don’t know what I don’t know. Is there anything else at TAFE worth considering for someone like me? I’d also be willing to work in town for a while for relevant experience before applying for a FIFO job.

Any advice appreciated.

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u/kazkh — 27 days ago