u/liquidsunshine03

stagdawn died the moon before his kits were born, and i'd like to think that the randomly generated names were purposefully related to his prefix. im so sad, i always saw stagdawn as the kind of cat who would be an amazing father.

reading my last post might make this easier to understand but essentially puddledapple confessed to her murder and that obviously made the whole clan hate her. so roarseeker (a new warrior, 14 moons) murders her. puddles murder was maybe a little bit valid though (she killed the cat her wife (rosyrunner) cheated on her with, then got back with her wife...) and other than that she's super sweet, she literally confessed bc she couldn't take the guilt, despite having ASTRONOMICAL levels of hate for the cat she killed (wishtooth).

so im wondering, should i send her to the dark forest? what do yall think

there is so much lore with puddledapple and rosyrunner, but the gist is that they used to be mates, had a litter of 3, then rosyrunner cheated w/ wishtooth. puddledapple toughed it out and had another kitten with rosyrunner before deciding she couldn't do it anymore, and they broke up.

a moon later, she gets with her new mate, rhian, and immediately gets pregnant with a litter of 3. she goes on to have another litter with him, as does rosy with wishtooth (only 5 moons ago). as this is happening, puddledapple's hate for wishtooth is slowly growing (naturally btw!! no mediators).

now, puddledapple has murdered wishtooth in cold blood and in the SAME MOON got back together with her ex and wishtooths mate. and puddle's traits are "nervous, great kitsitter & good teacher."

ok this is a bit of an experimental guide bc im just going off of whats available online and working from there. i am not a clangen developer in any capacity, and i can barely code, but i can read and so thats what you're getting.

some background: traits in clangen have 4 facets: lawfulness, sociability, aggression, and stability. they each have a scale of 1-16, and the numbers generated for your cat on each scale will collectively correspond to a certain trait (for example, adventurous cats have to be 1-10 on lawfulness, 3-14 on sociability, 3-14 on aggression, and 8-16 on stability).

if you want to change an apprentices trait without editing save files, your best bet is their mentor. mentors have an influence on their apprentices traits, and will pull their apprentice's facets towards numbers that match their own. like if your mentor is less sociable than their apprentice, they would likely make the apprentice less sociable too. that's what those mentor influence descriptions in your apprentice's history mean. if it says your mentor influenced your cat to be "more likely to follow the status quo", it means the lawfulness facet was increased. here's a list of all phrases and what they mean, just ctrl+f "facet_influence_text": https://github.com/ClanGenOfficial/ClanGen/blob/development/scripts/cat/history.py

okay so how do we get our apprentices to have traits that we want? well, you're still limited by their initial traits. going into the files, a facet change of 2 is typical, although 1, 3, and 4 are not uncommon. 5 and 6 are rarer. the point is, its not guaranteed.

you need to start with the trait your apprentice already has, which will tell you what traits are experimentally possible to get. use this website: https://clangen.io/docs/dev/writing/reference/trait-dictionary/#adult-traits to find your apprentice's trait, and read the "similar traits" section.

lets say your apprentice is childish, and you don't like that. well, going to the website yields you the result that childish is similar to playful, troublesome, and flamboyant. as far as i can tell, this isn't a comprehensive list (if you were to go in depth, you'd find obliviousness as pretty close to childish too), and it only takes counts something as similar when one facet is changed. doesn't take into account two facets being changed by a small amount, which happens a lot in mentoring. however, unless you want to manually check every trait's facets, this is unfortunately the only semiautomatic way of doing it.

okay, so you think that you would much rather your cat be playful instead of childish. you go to the playful section on the website, and you see it is indeed pretty similar, with the only difference being a higher range for stability. that means you should probably pick a mentor with a trait that corresponds to a higher stability value. obviously, playful would be the best, because it minimizes unwanted changes by other facets. if you're okay with other changes, make sure to just check what values your mentor/apprentice duo don't share, and what traits would result from a dual influence.

good luck with your apprenticing, and let me know if you want me to make a skill guide!!!