u/loveallASAP

Optimizing the EA neutralization step in CIELO

For some people, reclaimed EA (magnetic stirrer) can be cloudy. This can interfere with the main TEK (but not always).

So it could be time to re-optimize the reclaim step.

When developed originally, the reclaim process stated with wetter EA because the wet crumbs had more water. Now we are using less water to make the alkaline cactus crumbs and the EA is drier.

Cloudiness is likely dry sodium fumarate from the neutralization reaction. It is soluble in water ~23%, and water is effective at dragging it out of the EA. There could be other things contributing to cloudiness (e.g. molecules from the plant).

Therefore increasing the water recommendation (currently 1 teaspoon) for the neutralization step in the TEK could make it more robust (?)

Maybe some people using the TEK have already observed this and adjusted. Interested in results or ideas on a regen update. I have done a brine wash if needed to clear cloudiness (happens to me rarely), but it would be better if the regen step worked every time without an extra clarification step.

One thing I am going to test is the break up the single neutralization step into two:

  1. Wet neutralization: Add a tablespoon of water and tablespoon of sodium carbonate. This will neutralize the fumaric acid and should create some wet droplets that soak up the water soluble salt.

  2. Once neutralkzation is complete (no more salt formation), and another tablespoon of sodium carbonate to partially dry the EA to bring it to a lower wetness and ready for the TEK (so it doesn't affect the wet crumb consistency).

Maybe step 2 is overkill and not needed if using fumaric (but required for citric).

Or the update may not work, or creates new unknown issues witch would not be observed before thorough testing.

Interested in feedback or ideas here. Thank!

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u/loveallASAP — 3 days ago

The myth of DMT oxydation

DMT oxydation does not occur under normal storage conditions. I recently had an unproductive discussion in this sub-reddit with a couple good intentioned folks.

I want to try to clear the confusion here because the data is clear.

  1. I encourage anyone who still thinks their DMT is oxydizing to look for DMT oxide in the analytical data when checking purity. It will not appear.

  2. I didn't want to manually search for the work done on the DMT nexus to clarify this. I asked AI for help and verified the answer I got. AI was able to summarize the situation correctly and find the references on the nexus for me (this time, AI it doesn't always work).

I will leave the human verified AI answer in the comments.

Let's debunk this myth. Thanks.

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u/loveallASAP — 21 days ago

CIELO calculator verification

In this post

https://www.reddit.com/r/mescaline/s/sqwQzX6gfb

the OP ran out of room in the first jar after 4 pulls and put the 5th pull in a separate jar.

Based on extraction efficiency, the calculator predicted ~0.07 parts mescaline in the 5th pull for every part mescaline in the first 4 pulls combined = (92.2-85.9)/85.9

The result? 0.18g from the first pull and 2.66g from the first 4, so 0.18/2.66 ~ 0.07 confirming the calculator estimate 👍🏻

It is possible to salt each pull separately also. With enough data we can fit the partition coefficients and increase their accuracy (right now they are estimates at 3 and 1 for mescaline partition between EA and water and EA and plant material respectively).

u/loveallASAP — 2 months ago

Share your CIELO interactive checklist data here 🙏🏻

Hello community. u/Puzzleheaded-65 and I are going to roll out a new version of the CIELO interactive checklist. There will now be a questionnaire and the option to screen capture your results.

You can give back by posting the screen shot with all the data here. Plan is to create a repository of images that can be easily fed to a database via AI. Dream is for it to identify and confirm correlations for yield other than clone genetics 🤞🏻

As an example, here is a real extraction from u/Puzzleheaded-65. The clone name is unkown so this data would only be used for bridges in general (for example), but it will still be useful. Partial answers are OK, the data can always be cut, but the more details the better. We will be adding lighting conditions (UV index if outdoors, or grow light power/wavelength), age of plant, and harvest season to the survey.

Is there anything else you would like to see added to the questionare?

u/loveallASAP — 3 months ago

CIELO pull calculator

We applied the calculator that u/Puzzleheaded-65 coded in his online CIELO checklist (linked in the main TEK an now at https://apps.dmt-nexus.me/) to this extraction:

https://www.reddit.com/r/mescaline/s/jSUfgBxibs

See images for the results

If anyone salts their pulls separately, it would be great to share the data vs. calculator predictions. A gallery of pH strip color vs mescaline concentration is possible. Please take pictures shortly after the pH drips dry.

u/loveallASAP — 3 months ago

Happy to announce that the online checklist is back. There is a link to it in the main TEK.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/CIELO

We have worked together to track expected yield in the extraction section based on the mass of EA added and recovered in each pull.

Hope you enjoy, and feedback welcome 😄 Don't forget that you can share your yield data (plant type, parts used, growing conditions, stress conditions if any, etc.) to give back to the community.

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u/loveallASAP — 4 months ago

I have added a 2x EA option to the TEK. This option has the benefit that only 3 pulls are needed to achieve >90% pull efficiency (instead of 5). The efficiency is slightly higher than the 5 pulls with 1x EA.

Downside is that more EA is needed on hand, and that everything will not fit into a single quart jar if doing the classical 100g powder extraction. However, the EA "burned" is does not change, since only the trapped EA in the french press is lost.

Puzzleheaded has been working on code that will spell out all the extraction efficiencies in his upcoming CIELO live checklist (we are working to bring it back online).

If you try the 2x EA option please report on how it goes.

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u/loveallASAP — 4 months ago