u/m_seitz

L1 failed to return to dock for charging because the battery suddenly dropped to 0%

For the second time now, my L1 failed to get to the dock. This time, it managed to drive 80 m (260 ft), when the battery dropped from 15% to 0%. The last time, it dropped from 35% to 0%.

Does the mover learn and adapt to the discharge curve of the battery? My L1 is still kind of new and hasn't mowed much. Or is my battery crap and the voltage drops below the limit under stress (acceleration) when the charge is low, so that the BMS does an emergency cut off?

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u/m_seitz — 1 day ago

Another charging rant ... sorry, I don't have anywhere else to vent 🙁

Since charging doesn't work on my L1 because of dirty contacts after a few minutes of mowing, docking is broken too. When returning to the docking station, it will just ram into the dock repeatedly because it doesn't get electrical contact to the charger and it ignores the bumper collision warning switches.

Therefore, I disabled "Recharge & Resume". The L1 is still supposed to return to the dock at 15%, just not charge. I saw that it wouldn't finish it's current mow when it was at 30%. 15 minutes later, it was standing in the middle of my yard. Dead.

Of course, the fucker has automatic brakes that work when its off (the charging handbrake is disabled). I guess it's shorting the engines to induce resistance against movement without the need for battery power. Cool. (Actually cool on a slope. But it should be an option that can be disabled.)

I carried it to the dock, only to see that it wouldn't charge with the deck at 6.5cm height. Not only are the charging contacts crap, the dock is too!

It didn't even manage to mow 200 m2 (2200 ft2 or 0.05 acres) on a full charge (98%)! WTF?! That can't be normal, can it?

Oh "nice", while writing this, the battery charged to 50%, supposedly from 0%. Definitely a glitch in the BMS or a bad battery. I love that the L1 and L1+ work for many people. But mine seems to be utter garbage 👿

(Yes, I am aware that I am half a year late with these complaints. The mowing season just started here, and I could use the L1 for the past 6 months because of a cold and wet autumn and a long winter.)

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u/m_seitz — 1 month ago

Does the L1 not finish its docking procedure when the charging contacts are "dirty"?

My L1 doesn't dock properly when returning from a mow with 15%. It drives onto the dock, bumps into its end, sits there for a while, and then decides to drive forwards again with the tracks spinning without moving.

My bumper switches were f-ed, and I replaced them with custom brackets and switches. According to the engineering screen (second digit after the FNT label) the L1 registers at least one switch when bumping into the dock. With some pushing, it registers both switches. They trigger early, but those four bumper springs are insanely hard to compress, and the L1 loses traction before it gets both switches activated. After some back and forth, I found that I had to clean the contacts with isopropanol anyways for the L1 to charge. Now I am wondering if it really needs both or any bumper switch to know it is docked properly, and relies on the charger contacts instead. With dirty contacts, it doesn't dock?

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u/m_seitz — 1 month ago

Damn, this is some serious BS!

I loved the idea of the L1, and I still think it could be an awesome mower. But what I got is nothing more than a pre-production unit that was forced to shipping by some manager.

I dread the day the hub motor disintegrates because of the flimsy screws and housing barely holding it together. Over-tightening the tracks ... why doesn't the L1 have a cheap spring loaded track tensioner? The charging contacts ... the person(s) green-lighting those should be 🤬🤬🤬

The timing of the shipping to my country, Norway, couldn't have been worse. I barely managed to test it on 1/10 of my lawn at the end of October last year. Today is the first day the new gras can handle a mow. The L1 managed to mow 1/10 of my yard before the bumper "sensors" took it down. Turns out, the number one safety feature is made of the cheapest switches available!

After removing the two switches and soldering wires to them to make sure they have perfect contact to my multimeter, I found that one of them has slack joints on both pins. Merely touching the contact pins (not the actuator!) will make it go open circuit and signal collision with an obstacle. How did these switches make it into production?! Even the working switch is terrible. Pushing it inwards for a tiny fraction of a millimetre will trigger it! These are not the kind of switch for a bumper that is supposed to handle vibrations and minor pressure, but also are a safety feature! Of course, the switches are non serviceable because they were glued in place with a ton of silicone caulk. Cool.

Will support send me new switches within 2 months? Will they insist of replacing the whole unit and charge shipping and customs fees? Will they ask me to buy an L1+? Who knows? I don't!

Sorry for that rant. I did expect some hiccups. But I also expected the company to closely work together with their alpha testers to solve these initial mistakes.

u/m_seitz — 2 months ago