u/mentyaf

In your opinion, biggest screw job in bodybuilding history?

I am bored. I am drunk. Post below.

In my opinion;

Jay in 2007. I love Jay. He’s one of the GOATS. He possibly would be the goat if Ronnie didn’t exist. However, in 2007 he absolutely should not have won. Incredibly soft, he was beaten BAD from the back. Look at him when the winner was announced. Even he knew. I’ll go as far to say he looked better in 08 when he lost the Dexter than he did in 07 when he won.

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u/mentyaf — 4 days ago

What is your biggest bodybuilding “what if”?

A few examples I think about occasionally

- what if jay wins 2001 (like he should have, based on pre judging scorecards)

- what if Shawn Rhoden is allowed to compete in 2019

- what if Arnold doesn’t retire after ‘76?

- what if Jason Genova doesn’t cheat on his diet in the 2015 Ruby classic prep?

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u/mentyaf — 11 days ago

DISCUSSION: the last 8 Mr O’s are placed onstage

Ok not shitposting this time with a hypothetical. Let’s say, the Mr O’s from the last 10 years are all placed onstage together.

Notes;

Repeat champions get ONE submission. We are not taking both of their physiques onstage, so pick what version of them you prefer best - this means Derek, Phil health, and Big Ramy

We are using current judging standards. Not a huge change in the last 10 years, but I think the judging has leaned moreso towards not giving the reigning champ any sort of advantage

For reference;
2026 - Nick Walker
2025 - Derek Lunsford
2024 - Samson Dauda
2023 - Derek Lunsford
2022 - Hadi Choopan
2021 - Mamdouh “Big Ramy” Elssbiay
2020 - Mamdouh “Big Ramy” Elssbiay
2019 - Brandon Curry
2018 - Shawn Rhoden
2017 - Phil Heath
2016 - Phil Heath

So, on my opinion we throw out 2017 Phil, 2021 Big Ramy, and 2025 Derek Lunsford. Those are worse versions that the other version of them that won the other years. Big Ramy is debatable but I think the other two are unanimously agreed to have not been as good as the year they won prior.

This is where it gets tricky and here would be my rankings, from “worst” to best.

#8 Brandon curry

This is in no way a knock on Brandon. I actually refuse to say this Olympia win was a “bad” win like other people say online. He looked great, brought a great physique, and was a great Olympia winner. Hes always going to be marred by quite a few people NOT doing the O that year. Ramy, Phil, rhoden, and I think a few others were out thay year. He has great balance, good conditioning, and great posing. His legs are subpar compared to the rest, and he’s just a short competitor which hurts him, and brings him up at the rear here.

#7 Derek Lunsford

Maybe controversial, maybe not. I admittedly am not a big fan of Derek, and was glad to see him take third this year, but in this crop of Olympia winners I do think he’d be pushed out of the top 5. Lunsford brings a great package to stage - size, conditioning usually, and balance top to the bottom. Another short competitor, I think he’d be out of the top 5 due to his “soft” sort of look compared to the others, lack of “wow” in his physique, and soft look on certain body parts. Tough one to rank to be honest, as his back may be the best on stage, but his overall package leaves a lot to be desired

#6

Nick Walker.

Please don’t kill me everyone. I love Nick. However in this group, his lack of structure will really hurt him pushing for a top 5 spot. This version of Nick is fantastic, I want to make sure I state that. Nick brings the freak factor for sure, but again guys like rhoden, and Samson at their best, I struggle to see him stay ahead of them in placing. Remember, this is all the top guys at their best that year.

#5

Hadi

Seems like we’re getting all the shorties out of the way lol. Hadi is my favorite top pro at the moment. He brings insane conditioning, great density for his frame, good posing, and this version of Hadi was very complete. Hes smaller than the rest of his peers, which hurts him in this lineup, but he would definitely push all of them in the conditioning department.

#4

Phil heath

Yes. 4. This version of Phil was pretty far from his best. 2011 Phil? Not even a question. Same for 2013. But by 2017, he was being push pretty hard from his peers and I think his midsection and narrowness would be exposed hard by this time. He still had that amazing 3D look, great density, and conditioning. He just would get lost in this lineup by this point in his career.

#3.

Samson Dauda

Big fan of his. Good conditioning this year but he is carried by his incredible shape and structure. I actually think Samson was better in 2026 than 2024 when he won, but he just ran into a buzz saw known as Nick Walker. Samson has great posing, a massive frame, and a great physique to watch on stage. I really don’t think you can go wrong here with anyone 1-3.

#2

Big Ramy

One of the most frustrating bodybuilders to root for as we never really knew if he was going to put it together. Well, in 2020 he certainly did and he brought one of the most impressive combinations of size, and conditioning we’ve ever seen. I know big Ramy is controversial as some people hate his look, but you absolutely cannot deny that this year he just brought it. I think he’d really stand out in this lineup

#1

Shawn rhoden

Rip, legend. This year Shawn brought one of the best physiques we’ve ever seen to stage. Amazing conditioning, beautiful lines, and amazing symmetry from top to bottom. Maybe it’s a bit of nostalgia having him here, as him finally ending Phil’s reign was just amazing to see, but go rewatch this years O. He really did look amazing.

Those are just my opinions of course. Maybe I’d change them if I rewrote this lol. But it’s a fun thing to think about. Post yours below.

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u/mentyaf — 15 days ago

HYPOTHETICAL: where would 2015 Jason Genova place in the 2026 Mr. Olympia?

Discuss below.

Personally, I’d have him 4th, edging out Andrew Jacked.

His legs are on par with a prime Ronnie Coleman; with detail we haven’t seen since. The hamstrings would possibly cause some issues for him, as he seemed to only have done leg extensions and 1/4th rep squats, but going head to head vs Andrew this wouldn’t be an issue as it’s an issue for Andrew as well. Andrew may match him size, but in the freak factor, Jason clearly has an advantage.

Symmetry - Jason was well known for his symmetry from left to right. Perfectly balanced, with no glaring issues on each body part. His physique is perfectly balanced from top to bottom. As he is widely known for saying; if you have the upper body, you have the lower body. Somewhat dependent on if he’s doing Coath Adam Harper’s CrossFit training in regards to his a development, but we are talking prime Jason here, so we will assume he is.

Back development - often cited as having a “Dorian Yates barn door back” this would put him in strong contention for top 2, but his lack of using tan may hurt him here. For whatever reason Jason always decided to come in as white as possible. Perhaps I’m overthinking this tho, and he would actually stand out more on the bright Olympia stage. Somewhat a beacon of shining light.

Height; while not the tallest competitor, Jason is at least 8 inches taller than Derek Lunsford, meaning he would dorf him in comparison rounds. Typing this , I’m realizing I may have him in third.

Conditioning - this is where Jason could challenge for the top spot. Known for his grainy conditioning, he would match up well on a head to head to with Nick. While Nick may have him in glute detail, Jason was known for being sub 3-4-5 percent bodyfat based on the bodyfat machine used in worlds gym in delray Florida. This is also dependent somewhat on whether or not he is getting cream in his Starbucks coffee, and also if he’s truly going to Burger King for water, or for some food during his off hours from training.

Posing; another strong point for the Spaniard. Likely coming out to a remix of the imperial march, this would captivate the crowd, instill fear in those coming afterwards, likely spiking their cortisol, and would definitely win over the judging panel for his presentation. If you don’t believe me, just watch him sliding his thumbs over his back in the rear lat spread. A hush went over the crowd and the only thing you could hear was big Lenny yelling “what do you think about that, DALE” in the background.

The biggest key here is if Jason was wearing the red PJ Braun posing trunks he keeps on him at all times. If he has these on, there’s a good chance he moves up to top 1 or 2. The aura behind these cannot be understated, and as many of his competitors have learned, once he has them on, it’s game over. However, Jason may have possibly sent them to a troll in exchange for $25 via PayPal.

Taking all this into account, I have Jason as a solid #4, as there’s a few outliers here we would need to watch for in regards to his final performance. If the sound system breaks and he cannot come out to his standard music, and YouGottaBeAFreak isn’t there with a JBL speaker to play “it’s skittle time” as. Backup plan, we may have some issues.

Post your thoughts below.

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u/mentyaf — 18 days ago