u/monkeychemist25

Before I start, I just want to say we are not tackling whether you should, who you should, or why you should tip. That is off the table. Let's assume for the sake of argument that we do have to tip some professions and we all magically agreed upon the percentage that makes everyone happy.

Can we debate and discuss the "when" instead? This I've seen a lot of sophomoric comments in other threads like "b***h, cheap a**, a**h**e, etc... Those are not constructive, nor productive. Let's discuss as adults please.

My thoughts: Tipping was originally created as an incentive for great work. The price was the price, and if the person did well or above and beyond, the customer would recognize that effort and reward it with an appropriate tip. It was originally meant for that incentive -but it unfortunately became a way for restaurants to subsidize labor while maintaining artificially lower prices on their menu. Again, we're not arguing the why, this was just for context!

Assuming we go to the original intent -that would mean you add the tip AFTER the service and that way you can recognize good work with a good tip, or even exceptional tip for above and beyond work. Currently the culture has moved into BEFORE the service. When this happened the person doing the service basically stopped caring because they knew they would get a tip. Or in food delivery, the tipping customers are basically buying a priority in line. It's not really a "tip" anymore is it?

Question for debate: would customers be ok with tip being mandatory (percent is your choice) after you got the service? Conversely, would the employees doing the service be ok with the tip being given after your work was completed? You know you will get tipped, but you can earn the extra if you give the extra vs colleagues who get the minimum tip for minimum effort?

Love to hear your thoughts and if there are things I didn't think about love to hear that too. I am cognizant that I have blind spots in this argument.

My god, rocket mortgage bought out my former company and they have been so agressive to get me to refinance! I’m talking about multiple calls every day. I entertained it a few times to see what they would do. It’s all lies and bullshit. They promise a good rate but they get you with ridiculous charges. I’m talking more than 6% of the loan for a meager 0.5 to 0.75 % reduction in the rate. They charge you a ridiculous fee for it. I don’t understand the point system, but I understand that more than 9% of your loan is just down right ridiculous. So F U rocket mortgage I’m not falling for your crap, and I hope this helps the community stay away from this predatory lender