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As you all know, Amazon just axed the new show and right now many people are talking about raising our voice on X about this (Most prominent example is This tweet by Micheal Shanks). But many people either do not remember or know that this has been done before. You see, this isn't the first time this happened. Amazon was planning on renewing the series in 2018-2019, and axed it later on, and prominent figures in the Stargate community (especially u/JosephMallozzi) gave us the exact same advice: raise your voice on Twitter. So the #WeWantStargate tag was born, and along with many other tags a tweetstorm around 250k tweets was achieved. While it was impressive, in the end it didn't do anything. We have this example at hand, so what makes us think that the exact same thing will do anything now? Yes, we should still do that but as a side plan, that shouldn't be our main course of action but a side plan, maybe not even a plan b.

You see, we have tried such passive plans in the past. Many fanbases in the past did that too. While you might say "but expanse succeeded" their situation is different. Firstly it wasn't just a tweetstorm in expanses case but a change.org petition that got around 200k signatures, the show was new, the set was already established, the actors hadn't gone to other projects yet, the writers were already established and okayed by amazon and most importantly they did it all during the time it would have already been between two seasons. It was as simple as getting a greenlight from amazon, everything else was already set. Our situation is much more different, the props are gone, there is no set, new actors must be found, yes we do have our writers thankfully but you get the gist. Our job is not as simple, this is why our semi-passive way of asking amazon and hoping they will listen to us did not work, and it also will not work by itself now.

What might really work is, if we as a fanbase take matters into our own hands (as much as we feasibly can at least). My first impression is money talks. There have been instances of past movies that got crowdfunded for example Veronica Mars had been cancelled, and fans did crowdfund its continuation movie. This was led by the shows creator and main actors. We can do the same! Mystery Science Theater 3000 is even a better example, they used kickstarter to gather $2,743,736 to crowdfund a renewal of the show! We can do the same! And we do have in-universe examples of such attempts, back when Stargate Atlantis got cancelled (2010s), Joe Flannigan tried to buy the entire Stargate franchise from MGM, and they did in fact accept it. Right before they could finalize the sale MGM changed hands and Amazon didn't go through with it. This was my first plan, if Mr. Flannigan is still interested, and we as the crowd can also support him through a crowdfund maybe he can buy the IP, but this is unrealistic today. Amazon will likely sit on it, or ask a riddiculous price that even as the entire cast of SG-1 and Atlantis and us combined we can not afford. I have some other takes on this matter but that is for another post. Still this is not realistic. What is feasible though is, funding a pilot episode. An episode similar to S1-3 episodes of SG-1 (less CGI, more practical effects, more down to earth tone) is fundable by us. Within this sub, if everyone donated 10$ we can easily gather around 2 million dollars and that is enough for an average SG1 episode. Now lets not get ahead, I am talking about a pilot episode here and pilots cost more. While an average SG-1 season 1 episode did cost around 1.3 million $, the pilot episdoe children of the gods cost around 6 million $ since an entire set had to be built, especially the detailed practical stargate prop cost a lot. And this is also not corrected for inflation. A rough correction puts us at 11.8 mil $ for children of gods, and 2.6 mil $ for any following episode. While we can reach probably 2.6 mil$, I am talking about a pilot episode here and even if we cut corners with cheap cgi gate or cheap non-mechanical props (maybe the new shows gate can be like the atlantis gate), we can expect a cost around 5 mil in Canada. And I haven't taken the increased costs of actor salaries etc. But I also have a secondary backup proposal for this: We do not have to film it in America. Developing movie and TV industries of countries like Spain, Korea, even Turkey can do this for much lower. And if we are not aiming for an expanse level or late Atlantis level CGI, but a down-to-earth level, more humble show like the earlier sg-1 seasons, we reallly can achieve this.

I am sure that if this campaign is led well, we can push out a pilot episode, or a short movie, or something similar that would make amazon see the value of our original writing team and their vision. If not, too bad so sad at least we would have tried really well, and if we do this we will also make the news do not forget about it since this is not a common thing that happens. Especially if we go the "lets do it in the developing countries" route local news of those countries will surely pick it up and do pressure in our stead.

And who can help us you say? I am sure that people like Joe Flannigan will, he has tried in the past, and this might come as a shocker but did you know that Suanne Braun who played Hathor, Alexis Cruz who played Skaara are still hoping for a new show even today, despite having played in only a few episodes? Do not dismiss the power stargate has on people. I am very sure that they will help us in our campaign if we decide to take that route.

Anyway, it's just how I feel about it. What do you think?

My family used to run a publishing house in Europe years ago. We still have around 80k unsold books in our storage, (~140 titles), mostly crime novels in our local language.

The books are already printed and paid for long ago, they have all the government mandated banderoles, ISSN's etc. so this is more about monetizing dead inventory and reclaiming storage space than running a normal publishing business.

I was considering Amazon FBA because I do NOT want to deal with shipping individual FBM orders every day.

My idea was to start small by sending maybe 10 copies each of around 50 titles and then grow or shrink the business depending on the initial test.

However, I keep reading horror stories about FBA fees, returns, damaged inventory, long-term storage fees, etc.

One concern I have with books is that buyers could read them within 15 days and send them back, and amazon might mark them as unsellable and want disposal/return fees. My idea is therefore to sell them at a price so low that it won't be worth the hassle to go through a return for the customer, or package them in sets so that the entire set can't be read in 15 days. But sets is a whole another deal, I don't want to deal with that if I don't have to.

These books might not generate much demand, but are low-cost to me. Therefore I’m wondering if FBA is actually viable for this kind of inventory liquidation, or if the fees slowly eat away all the margin.

Has anyone here done something similar with books or slow-moving inventory?

Merhaba, oyunculara karşı halkı kin ve nefrete sürükleyen ve yalan haber yapan TV kanalları var. Aynı kanallarda çeşitli bilgisayar satıcıları oyun bilgisayarı adıyla reklam veriyorlar. Bu olmamalı. Oyuncular olarak bu firmalara "bizi kötü gösteren kanala reklam vermeyin" şeklinde baskı yapmalıyız. Bir kanal oyunlara sallayıp oyuncu bilgisayarı reklamından para kazanamaz.