u/navi_wizard

▲ 16 r/amino

AI Generated / At Your Own Risk / Community Ad Apps

There's been a lot of apps racing to replace Amino.

Recently there's been a wave of apps keeping up with updates on the status of their apps, whether they're in beta, wanting suggestions, or asking you to join their communities.

These apps are usually flagged with the following:

  • Community Ad
  • AI Generated
  • At Your Own Risk

I wanted to explain what each of these post flairs mean, so that you're informed on what platforms you're engaging with.

AI Generated

Apps tagged with AI Generated are apps that have used substantial amounts of AI when advertising or their product consists of blatant use of AI. Some of these apps have made it transparent that their apps are AI generated which is good, a lot do not outright tell the truth and just continue to advertise their product as a normal app.

Although times are changing and AI is being used to develop apps more and more, this isn't a requirement to developing apps, and a lot of times it cuts back on development time which means a lot of bugs and security issues get through. A lot of these apps also tend to not have experience in actual engineering, there are no companies tied which means no liability, and moderation falls back as resources are underestimated on how much is actually required to maintain a social media app.

The main reason for the flair is safety. There has previously been around 3–4 apps advertised here that ended up leaking user credentials, including passwords.

At Your Own Risk

These are apps where it can be hard to tell who actually made them or how much of the app was AI-generated. They may come from unknown developers, have no registered company behind them, or simply have little to no reputation yet.

That doesn't automatically mean the app is bad. It could just be a new app that's starting out. However, being new also means there may not be enough information available to know how safe or trustworthy it actually is.

Some apps may also use misleading advertising to make themselves seem more popular or trustworthy than they really are. If you decide to try one of these apps, keep in mind that they may fall short when it comes to:

  • Moderation
  • Security
  • Community Standards
  • Liability
  • Data Privacy

Ways of Deceptive Advertising

Fake recommendations

>Someone made this app (not me), come check it out!

This is when someone promotes an app like they randomly found it, when they're actually the developer, owner, or connected to the app in some way. It makes the recommendation look genuine when it's really just advertising.

Not every new or unknown app is unsafe, but it's still a good idea to be cautious when there's not much information about who's behind it or how your data is being handled.

Copyright & Trademark Violations

Apps found to be under Copyright & Trademark Violations will be removed.

This includes apps that are stealing assets, logo, branding, and code. This is illegal, & creates confusion when someone believes that Amino is being revived.

Some have brought up that MediaLab won't renew their trademark registry, but just because they don't renew their registration doesn't mean all of their resources become free for anyone to use. A trademark expiring doesn't mean they lose every right to the name, or brand. It also doesn't mean their copyrighted materials like code, artwork, graphics, and other assets, become public property.

The biggest concern though is that it tricks people into thinking "Amino 2.0" released by "Narvii" is an official return, and then misinformation quickly spreads that Amino is returning. There is no news or updates that Amino will ever return officially. Amino is officially shutdown.

Community Ad

These are apps that have already been established for many years, have a registered company, and have shown to have a community growth + backing. This includes things like Discord, Telegram, Reddit, and other alternatives that have been around long enough.

Regardless of the reputation of these apps, you should always use your best judgment when trying out an app regardless of its reputation. I understand everyone is desperate to relive the nostalgia, but you should also be self aware of what you're willing to invest your time to, including your personal information.

Endgoal

Overall, it's recommended for apps to handle their own advertising. This subreddit is mainly meant to be a place for former Amino users to reconnect. The flairs and advertising requirements are really just there to make sure people aren't being misled or taken advantage of.

Once an app is established, it generally shouldn't be using this subreddit to advertise every update or new feature. Most established apps grow here through word of mouth anyway, with actual users mentioning them while promoting their own communities. For example, someone might post, "Come join my Steven Universe community on XYZ." Once an app has an established user base, updates about the app itself should stay within its own communities.

This subreddit shouldn't turn into an advertising hub for different apps. It's supposed to be a place where actual users can talk, reconnect, and reminisce about Amino. A lot of people just want somewhere to hang out, find people they used to talk to, and reconnect on whatever platform they prefer.

If you want to talk about old Amino memories, vent about your experiences, find people to roleplay with, or just chat, go for it. But if the subreddit gets flooded with posts advertising different apps, it stops feeling like a community and starts feeling like an ad board.

Ultimately, Community Ads should mainly be for users advertising communities they've created on an established platform. For example, if you used to moderate an Adventure Time Amino and you've now created an Adventure Time Discord server, you can use a Community Ad to let former members know where to find it. That's the kind of thing the Community Ad flair was originally created for.

u/navi_wizard — 4 days ago
▲ 11 r/amino

Apps Impersonating Other Apps

There's been a previous post warning about the impersonation of Amino, but there's also been an increase of apps advertising with AI generated ads and impersonating other alternatives popping up which may create confusion & potential risks in trust.

A recent one that's popped up a lot lately due to many alt accounts advertising it and getting picked up by Reddit's Spam Filter has been "Ducks Community". There's been a lot of apps popping up almost weekly, and a lot of them have been AI generated or using unauthorized assets.

Although it would be nice for everyone to find alternatives, a lot of alternatives have been using very deceptive practices to push their apps onto you. This makes it very difficult to separate genuine apps looking to help you from AI generated slop looking to take advantage of the situation; it's not fair to those projects actually trying to help everyone as they should have a chance to help.

E.g. the following ad is completely AI generated.

AI Generated Ad; posted by the official u/DucksApp account.

In addition, their home website has been stolen from Kyodo. I know some of you have strong opinions about the state of Kyodo, but stealing their assets should still be a red flag for an app to do if they're genuinely looking to support a long lasting ecosystem.

Kyodo's website being copied by Ducks. https://web.archive.org/web/20260627200307/http://web.archive.org/screenshot/https://www.duckapps.com.br/

For transparency, since it seems they've changed it when it was pointed out, it was backed up into the wayback machine here: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627200307/http://web.archive.org/screenshot/https://www.duckapps.com.br/

I highly recommend whenever someone is looking for an alternative to really question what apps they're committing to before handing over your time & data to it.

Ask yourself these questions when trying out alternatives:

  • Does the app use AI to advertise?
  • Is it stealing assets from other apps?
    • Even Amino, just because it shutdown does not mean their rights & ownership of Amino has too. This can come back to bite them in the future if at any point Amino decides it's worth spending money on to pursue more money. Which means another shutdown, & you'll be back to looking for another app.
  • Does the app's team have a provable history in Software Engineering + Trust & Safety?
  • Although not required, but still a note on a serious project, is the business registered?
  • Do their announcements sound AI generated? 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
  • Who is helping the app with assets & artwork? (AI?)
  • Are they transparent about what they're doing with AI?

Some of these AI generated apps may have good intentions, but may be highly inexperienced with the actual weight of the consequences of managing a large app, people, safety, & security. If you're using AI be upfront about it, if you're inexperienced be upfront about it. I'm sure everyone would be willing to help start a community & boost an app's relevance, but making a lot of risks and brushing it off due to the desperation of people looking for an alternative & taking advantage of oblivious people, is not good.

I've seen a lot of good art come out of community help, be genuine, and you'll attract these people to help you build your app; cutting corners that may risk trust is almost never worth it. The consequences of flooding people with AI apps doesn't just affect your goals, but it also affects a lot of indie developers who are actually trying to create cool things. I've seen some cool apps pop up, which nobody can be entirely sure about, because apps like these outnumber the amount of indie developers trying to genuinely produce a product that may be in a gray area of trust but with some help could really easily make it to a position of trust and reliability.

If anyone here is working on an app, please be conscientious about how you affect the image of not only your app, but everyone who is trying to also make things the right way; so that you can all do right by the users trying to find an alternative. These are bridges being burnt, & people will eventually just end up not trusting any alternatives.

As an experienced developer, apps like these always take time and there's truly no rush in perfecting it. Make a complete & solid product, build true responsibilities, plan solutions for potential problems in these types of environments, create a roadmap - then advertise. Part of the endeavor isn't just spitting out an app as fast as you can, it's absorbing and actually learning, which results in a mature vision for an app and its user base which you want to keep in the long run.

Anyways enough ranting, everyone stay safe & hope you find some good devs out there actually looking to bring back your nostalgia.

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u/navi_wizard — 2 months ago