u/overtrailblaze

Proper scaling of Star Rail characters, including highs and consistency

To make sense of how Kafka and DH aren't destroying stars, this post is to line up the highs and consistencies of Stellaron Hunters and Emanators

In Firefly's character story 2, it mentions a bomb thrown into the Swarm Mother's mouth, capable of wiping out a planet

"Finally, an opening was created within the Swarm, and from it emerged the Swarm Mother, advancing slowly. Like a streak of light, she skillfully navigated through the dense swarm, racing alongside her fellow Iron Cavalry comrades toward the mouthpiece of the towering Silver Sting. Just as the Swarm Mother was about to devour her, she closed her eyes, detonating a bomb with enough firepower to obliterate an entire planet."

I believe this was symbolically or literally shown at the end of her trailer to be either the bomb or her own powers, after that she absorbed the Propagation Path power to be able to replicate this planet destroying ability in drastic times. She can't use it in a fight consistently. This lines up with other Firefly feats such as sparring the other Hunters, how she wanted to launch herself into the Reverie hotel. We know she most likely isn't capable of fighting any Emanator one on one too, as none of the Stellaron Hunters besides Silver Wolf are without her cartridge. And we know theoretically Silver Wolf should be more powerful than Firefly due to her Emanator status, yet it felt weird to put Firefly over her due to inconsistent scaling. Asat Pramad should be able to handle Firefly, but we know he's scared of Silver Wolf specifically. It lines up if we assume Firefly isn't destroying planets consistently, only in these bursts. She can only activate this as a sort of bomb or burst, and it doesn't seem to be related to her consistent fighting ability.

Next are the Arbiter Generals, this one is very simple. Feixiao's Spiritus, Flying Aereus, is able to devour nebula clouds.

"Head of the inner beast, drinker of stellar radiance, devourer of nebula clouds."

It could be symbolic, and if it's literal we also don't know if it consumes the entirety of nebula clouds or how long it takes if it does, but if we take it as literally "devouring" nebula clouds, consuming the entirety of them, it puts Flying Aureus and by extent, Feixiao, at the same scaling as other Emanators like Herta, Shuhu, Zulo, Celenova. Lightning Lord is said to have fought off and killed Shuhu several times over, so Jing Yuan scales similarly to Feixiao and the other Emanators

The only Emanators above this level are the obviously cracked ones like Acheron, Cyrene, and Zephyro. But otherwise, the scaling seems to be this:

Acheron, Cyrene, Zephyro, Last Emperor Silver Wolf >>>>> Herta >= Feixiao, Jing Yuan, Celenova, Phantylia, Asat Pramad, current Silver Wolf >>> Firefly, Kafka, Blade, Silver Wolf without her cartridge

Note that this is just in raw power and is a ROUGH scaling, and doesn't account for esoteric abilities or insight that can influence matchups, such as the Spirit Whisper. Overall I think this makes much more sense with the Emanators matching Emanators at their specialties and the absurdly powerful Emanators at the top, and regular Pathstriders at the bottom

Bonus:

Evanescia's true form and Hua are in the same scaling and it's consistent with what we know. She was able to reduce mountains to dust and cracked the earth, and both are confirmed Emanators

"A minute later, the Phantasmoon Games resumed normally. But the world appears aged, yellowed. The earth cracked open, mountains and valleys diminished into dust, and a sorrowful girl fell from the sky."

Only to be stopped by Marshal Hua

"Memories of life and death stirred her awake once more. Driven by unmatched pride, she had charged thoughtlessly into the forbidden territory of the Alliance Fleet. Only afterward did she consider how effortlessly the opponent in front of her could parry her sword. Like dry leaves faced with encroaching wildfire, she too was at a loss in front of this blaze."

With a single parry, so she is overwhelmingly strong

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u/overtrailblaze — 1 day ago

Last Emperor Silver Wol vs. Hertatomb

Does the Aether Editing master and the one who killed Polka, and destroyed the entire IPC win against the Third Emperor?

u/overtrailblaze — 1 day ago

Generals are Emanators and the Hunt path is narrow

I feel like non-lore experts forget this, but the path of the Hunt is known to be very narrow compared to wider ones like the Destruction or Nihility, it really only makes sense for its Emanators to not be as powerful as say Zephyro or even Herta or Silver Wolf. Generals are still Emanators, but Lan just doesn't give nearly as much power to them because again this path is narrower, it's like an arrow.

Jing Yuan was genuinely struggling against Ambrosial Arbor Phantilia because she just scales above him when mixing those two paths, he wasn't holding back. Maybe in the future they'll get an upscale, but so far you can equate the Generals to maybe city level or mountain level, far below the Emanators of wider paths. It doesn't mean they aren't Emanators, just that the Xianzhou is fraudulent. Ashveil I'd say matches them without necessarily being an Emanator

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u/overtrailblaze — 1 day ago