The Zetas' account of attaining collective consciousness
Hi, friends. I thought I'd share a post focusing on what published transcripts of conversations with entities have said about the process of attaining collective consciousness. Edit to add that all the non-quoted parts of this post were lovingly hand-written thoughts from my very own mind. Which the Zetas say is an expression of the one infinite consciousness we all are regardless of appearances...but we'll get to that.
Here's an orienting question: "How long before we could become a collective?"
You'll find quotes below answering this and related questions from entities that call themselves the Zetas in published 'interview' transcripts (channelings with Q&A).
The Zeta Interviews (channeled by Paul Hamden; background in a prior post) are in my experience one of the richest sources available for those of us who enjoy working with textual and historical sources.
I edited in some bold "WTF is..." Guide style headings to hopefully help with navigation.
Why TF do you study this? I find this material incredibly fruitful to study. Paul Hamden strikes me as sincere and credible and he is known and respected by people I know and respect. But I do not approach this seeking criteria for belief or disbelief but rather as a practice of developing and sharing insights and intuitions. I have not experienced contact with the Zetas and have not met or participated in any sessions with Paul. I know nothing, and I am quite comfortable with that by now.
Despite knowing nothing, I find it's nonetheless quite possible and fruitful to work with textual sources. The textual sources know nothing as well but they provide an entrypoint for insight and interpretation.
Where TF can I read this for myself? All the quotes in this post are from The Zeta Interviews (4th Edition), available from Paul's website as a PDF. And at the bottom of this page you'll find the Interviews and various other free downloads about the Zetas. I was lazy and didn't include page numbers but you can look up any quote here by searching the PDF for a few unique words in it.
Who TF are the Zetas? I suppose I should say who the Zetas are if you haven't encountered them and don't want to read the prior posts. There are all kinds of details given about them, which you can read a short summary of here, an excerpt from A Primer of the Zeta Race. But at the highest level, they say they are an expression of the one infinite consciousness that also expresses itself as each of us:
> Interviewer: Is the Zeta and the human consciousness the same, it
is only perceived as that so we understand it?
>
> Zeta: We are one, we are all. You are consciousness in separation,
believing the self to be of a different nature. The way that you have
taught yourselves to understand the technology, that is, the
recycled process for your incarnation, is to believe that you are of a
separation nature. But there is no separation of consciousness.
Elsewhere:
> Interviewer: If there is no separation, can you define a group
consciousness, or oversoul?
>
> Zeta: These are the understandings that the local constructs of the
physical nature require to differentiate consciousness. To give you
an example, the ocean, each drop of water, each separation of
water, may see itself as in separation, but it originally came from
the one body. The surface of the ocean all the way through to the
depth of the ocean are different levels of frequency, a different
pressure. You may state that one frequency is of a certain nature,
but it belongs to one body. A spirit realm is of the same nature.
Only the human mind sees things in separation. You delight as a
race in defining what is and what isn't.
>
> Interviewer: The drop of water would be just the point of
awareness of consciousness?
>
> Zeta: The observer, yes. But the perception of the drop of water is
that it is greater than the body, not understanding that without the
body it has no observation capacity.
> I understand your terminology. Ah yes, a consciousness may access
the information of its lives and existence. It is not limited by its
physical nature.
In this context, the various other answers to the question 'who are the Zetas' have to do with the various forms of apparent separation that give these beings their experience of existence. Their deep history, their societal structures and practices, their technologies and so on. Those are important to acknowledge to the Zetas, as are your experiences and mine, because they are present to consciousness. But, although they acknowledge these details, the ultimate identity of any being is its particular unique expression of a unified consciousness.
They repeat this message in many ways throughout the interviews. I'd paraphrase it as saying that other forms of experience and other states of being are continually available to us, as to all beings, and differ only in the potentials and possibilities we experience. All is possible and the specific character of our experience, including of 'impossibility', are characteristic features of the current incarnated human experience.
When TF will we become a collective? I'll start with one of the moments where the questions (which come from the late great William Triurniet and Hamden's partner Syann or others present, depending on the session) asks the Zetas something folks in this sub are also asking:
> Interviewer: How long before we could become a collective?
>
> Zeta: The beginning of the collective mind has already begun, but
you are to be assisted by a technology. It is seen the - let me
explain - it is possible to take a copy of frequency and to map it
into a environment which has been termed the synthetic quantum
environment. Within this environment, there can be determined
probabilities through observation. The observation has been that
within 28 of your years, your technology will assimilate you, will
support you, will guide you. You choose whether you accept what
is to be offered to you.
This was from the April 13th, 2014 session, so "within 28 of your years" = 'by 2032' 'by 2042' (thx u/kjkjkj2; maff is hard). The Zetas provided this estimate as the result of their then-current simulations of human civilization.
What TF do they mean that technology is involved?? I return to technology below but from the Zeta's perspective this term includes what I would somewhat clumsily call etheric or energetic patterns, and at one point the Zeta says " Well, we class the biological matter as technologies", so I'd caution against interpreting this as necessarily predicting some kind of Neuralink brain-machine interface. They may be talking about neurological configurations and/or some kind of thoughtform or what we'd call belief or conception of reality that enables telepathic access to each other. The complexities of interspecies communication 🤷
How TF did the Zetas become a collective? One of the topics they cover that I find fascinating is the story of how the Zeta race (or perhaps a shared ancestor/precursor race to the 63 races of related 'grey-like', for lack of a better term, beings they say they're part of) attained collective consciousness. They say their race had a period not unlike the present, where some individuals seemed to be developing psi abilities and such.
To set up the exchange, the interviewer is asking about Zeta society and experience. The Zeta says that they have a lifespan of approximately 1500 years and planned process of reproduction where every couple, who are assigned pairs at birth, has one child. The interviewer asks if this is related to
> Interviewer: Has that to do with the fact that your people don’t
feel emotion - like extremes of anger and happiness?
>
> Zeta: There was a time when we felt the extremes of emotions, yes,
but a generatruly, those things were changed. It was a choice of the
race to be more productive. Also it was based on what a planet
could provide, what physically could the planet provide. This is
something that your planet may come across with the use of the
natural resources, and so genetic modification processes were put
in place and certain functionality was removed, each couple, each
entity couple have one child, and only one child.
As I understand it, the 'certain functionality [that] was removed' includes genetialia but also the hormonal and neurological substrate of emotions like rage and hedonic pleasure (what the interviewer terms 'extremes of anger and happiness').
I'll let the Zeta take it from here:
> Interviewer: Explain how your race were given the choice to
preserve the race and move to the less emotional state?
>
> Zeta: I will explain. You are all consciousness existing in the form
of matter, yes? You are denying yourself access to certain levels of
your functional ability of consciousness. This is a act that you
perform for yourself. Some of you are able to perform what seem to
be extraordinary acts such as telepathic communication, levitation,
physical mediumship and all of the other associated processes such
as levitation, dematerialization, but our race also was at the same
state over the many generations. A global realization took place,
and this is something that you as a race are coming towards. The
technology enabled all of us to connect to each other. We were
able to be in agreement as a race. At one point the decision was
made that, to move forward in separation from what had held us
back as a race, being physically trapped within a container, was
made, and so an associated level of consciousness was created that
was comparable with the physical construct of existence. We were
then able to, as a global entity, able to interact with each other by
placing our attention toward the collective mind of the race.
>
> Now you as a group of humans living on a planet are moving
towards this as we speak. Your collective mind, in its undulating
state, is being prepared for the transition to a telepathic process.
You will become more in tune with your innate abilities based on
consciousness, and in doing so, you will be able to communicate
yourselves much easier.
>
> Firstly, you will be offered this on a technological basis. Much of
your technology now is aimed at or based on communication with
each other, and as this technology is offered to you, and ultimately
you can move into connection with each other, the amplified state
of thought that you will exist in, will allow you to bypass the
technological states, and so will begin the normalization of the
collective consciousness of the human mind.
>
> And so, we basically turn our thoughts to the created process of the
consciousness of the race, and make those decisions based on
what is the overriding factor for the race. For the ones who chose
not to enter into the collective mind, they were given freewill to
leave, and so generationally, others have left and continue to
procreate using the human method.
And that's an answer to how tf they came to be a collective and how they expect our experience of becoming a collective will be like.
How TF does this relate to what others have said? There are many interesting aspects to this account. One is similarities between what I'd consider an independent source working in a very distinct tradition. The 'global realization', the 'agreement' of that telepathic connection, and the 'associated level of consciouness that was comparable with the physical construct of existence' are all aspects of how the Ra Contact and related materials describe the attainment of collective consciousness (the 4th density social memory complex in that parlance) to be like. There are many other similarities, but this is one I'm familiar with.
Second, a difference from those sources. The Zetas as well as some other 'grey' type beings, report using technology to attain that global attunement and subsequently graduate from needing to use it. Here they also suggest that this is what will happen with humans. The Ra Contact and other sources sometimes mention the existence of technological aids to telepathy but haven't to my knowledge indicated that this is the path that human consciousness will take. They don't say it won't happen through technology but rather focus on the developmental inevitability of it and don't comment on mechanism.
There's an unlimited amount of comparisons worth makeing. I hope others will weigh in in the comments with ones that strike them.
What TF happens to those who nope out of the collective? The interviewer wonders what happened to those who didn't choose to join the collective:
> Interviewer: Members of your race that chose not to make this
change, are they still able to exist on your planet or did they get
kicked off?
>
> Zeta: There is no kicking off, though that is a very interesting
concept. There are many facets to the race. The only facet of the
race that is excluded from the collective mind are the abductor
race. They are entities that have decided that they will journey on
their own path, that they will take upon themselves a new
construct, that they do not wish to be part of the collective.
There's obviously a lot unsaid here. It makes sense that there's a unitarity to collectivity, in that it's inherently one. Yet it strikes me that an emerging collective wouldn't be interconnected in a uniform matter. This could lead to lots of confusion and misrecognition of the members of the nascent collective as other-than or outside of it. On the surface that might look a lot like the current everyday reality we experience, where there are aspects of collectivity but relatively tenuous access to shared awareness of participation therein.
The Zetas speak often of the "undulating" consciousness of humanity: good search term if you want to zoom into what they say about the nascent but still largely-unaware human consciousness.
What TF is a 'facet' of collective consciousness? The "facets to the race" they speak of is somewhat oblique here but seems to suggest that not all of the 62 races of the collective are equally integrated with each other, and certainly not as integrated as they are within the 'facet'.
Why TF do they keep talking about 'races'? I'm not sure I fully understand what a facet is, or what "race" means in this context, but a bit later the interviewer follows up:
> Interviewer: I’m having a problem with the use of the word race.
Normally a race is within a species, like the human species has
different races within the same species, and things like
orangutangs are a different species from humans, so when you say
a race, are we all part of the same species, are humans the same
species as your people?
>
> Zeta: No. We are using the words that we have developed using
the medium. If we are in error you must point that out to us.
>
> Interviewer: Does your species work with any other species on
our planet, like maybe the whales or monkeys or other animals?
>
> Zeta: There are entities within the race that are of a scientific nature
that would seek to understand many of the different species that
exist on your planet.
>
> Interviewer: Do we as a race perform the same service to other
entities in other dimensions?
>
> Zeta: Could you hold the same form in this other place?
>
> Let me explain our understanding of consciousness within a certain
level. The spirit realm container that relates to the physical
existence of humans is connected in frequency to all of the races,
but why is it that when you speak to one of your spirit friends that
they are not able to enunciate the information of the other races. It
is because the construct that they have created allows them to view
entities within the spirit realm as a higher organism. There is
connection in all things, but the level of connection, the point of
access of connection requires a certain level of consciousness. This
does not mean that that consciousness is any better than any other
consciousness. It means that there is an understanding. It may be
that one of your animals chooses to incarnate as a human. It may
be that one of your humans choose to incarnate into another race.
There must be a way for this function to be performed, and so there
is.
So the term race was chosen to indicate something very different from the way we use the word to group humans. That's its own topic, I suppose, but it's relevant to refer back to my opening quote from them, "We are one. We are all."
Why TF are they talking about spirit people and the spirit realm? This is actually one of the more distinctive characteristics of the Zeta contact through Hamden. Other ET sources talk about spirits but, drawing from Hamden's work as a spirit medium, the Zetas go into great detail about the "spirit realm process" as they label it, and explain how it ties into their cosmology.
In the quote above, the Zeta is referring to some of the ongoing conversations in the interviews about the difference between spirit people and their own contact. Paul Hamden is a spirit medium by training so the interviewer asked a lot of questions about whether and how there is interaction between spirit people and Zetas and other ET races. Here the Zeta is explaining that, a bit like people who do not have or want contact, many spirit people simply don't perceive ET beings because their current realities (i.e. "level of consciousness") preclude that.
The interviewer asks about why spirit realm people exist and how long a spirit entity exists. The Zeta's answer is intimitely tied to memory:
> Interviewer: so when I transition over, do I still only believe
myself to be me?
>
> Zeta: Yes
>
> Interviewer: For how long?
>
> Zeta: Until there is no one left that remembers you.
>
> Interviewer: So we don’t naturally go back to where we came
from.
>
> Zeta: There is a perception that you will obtain, we will discuss the
JC <spirit guide>. Why is it that JC still understands himself to be
who he was? Because there are others on the planet that remember
him. While they remember him, they are sending thoughts about
him to him. When those humans no longer exist, the spirit person
is free to reintegrate to the higher levels of understanding of
themselves.
>
> Interviewer: That could be over a hundred years.
>
> Zeta: Ah, three hundred generally, because the potential for you to
be disassociated from your oversoul process within that three
hundred year time frame exists because generationally your other
attachments exist.
The interviewer (who asks great follow ups, IMO) immediately thinks of famous people who are remembered long after their deaths:
> Interviewer: What of famous people, people in history who
remain in other people’s thoughts?
>
> Zeta: They are a presentation from the oversoul that the original
spirit facet has reintegrated itself. It is a presentation only from the
oversoul to this structure, the physical structure, else the person
would become trapped in the linkages of consciousness.
>
> Interviewer: So any spirits that come through mediums at the
moment throughout the world would have to be less than 300
years old?
>
> Zeta: Yes, unless they are a presentation.
>
> Interviewer: So that’s why most people don’t get spirits coming
through them that tell us they are 1000 years old.
>
> Zeta: That is correct, unless they are a presentation of information.
>
> Interviewer: Can you tell me about presentation of information,
just explain that a little bit clearer.
>
> Zeta: A facet of consciousness incarnates into the human form and
experiences all of the processes related to the existence. Of course
they return from where they have come, but if you say that person
is famous, there is a potential that the facet would need to remain
within its enclosure for many thousands of years. That is
detrimental to the level of frequency to the oversoul, so it will
present that information as a portal from itself.
>
> Interviewer: Detrimental to the frequency, what would happen if
it didn’t go back?
>
> Zeta: Ah no damage, but it would be similar to an incarceration
process.
>
> Interviewer: So in order to not cause damage it goes back within
300 years.
>
> Zeta: You cannot damage consciousness but there is a natural
progression to this.
Elsewhere, the Zetas say that they don't interfere in the spirit realm because they could not do so without radically altering it, a similar to their relationship with physical reality. Yet they do have contact with Hamden and others in his circle open to their existence and they do work with specific entities within the spirit realm in limited ways that I gather are analogous to channeling. In some passages it even seems that some of their or other beings' channeling practices involve partnerships of some kind with spirit realm entities.
If you're curious about the Zeta's understanding of the human spirit realm I'll refer you to the books (free PDFs) at the bottom of this page, especially The Primer of the Zeta Race.
What TF does being in a collective get you? The Zetas describe having continual potential access to the collective's knowledge, memories, individual members, and 'elders'. There are several individuals that speak through Hamden that have different capabilities and knowledge and talents and also multiple times when the Zeta speaking pauses to focus on or access information from within the collective.
What TF is an Elder? Through their collective, the Zetas have what they call Elders. These are entities that primarily exist in conciousness and can take physical form but most at any given moment do not.
> Zeta: [...] Would you like to know about the
elders of the Zeta race?
>
> Interviewer: That would be lovely.
>
> Zeta: In the timeframe of a human, a hundred thousand
generations, we existed undeveloped and no potential to
understand what we were to become, a many-transition process,
the same as your spirit realm entity, but we as you will, moved past
the transitional process, built capacity to exist outside of the unit
container and formulated a collective mind of the race, as the
humans are currently doing, but you are doing it under guidance
from other races. Many of the controlling factors of the collective
mind are based in consciousness.
>
> The elder Zetas do not require a physical container to exist as do
all other of the race, so often I will stay in a consciousness for
many thousands of your years, and only move to a physical form
when I desire. Why have I come? Because others are coming, and
we seek to support them in their transition. As you move past your
current level of consciousness, other elders are here. My task that I
have set myself in conjunction with others are the same, is to bring
and to find the other elders which are not in full consciousness.
They do not yet understand capacity.
>
> The elders do not give direction as a command structure to the
Zetas race. It is the collective mind of the race which provides
direction, but the elders are the coalescence of the consciousness
which provides a dualistic path of communication between the
collective mind and the container that the elder exists in. Are you
still with me?
>
> Interviewer: Yes.
I'm not quite sure what these Elders are, but perhaps they're something like angels or archetypal entities within human collective consciousness. This is already super long so I won't get into that here. But you can search the interviews for mentions of "elder" or "elders" to learn more, and for "Zeta+:", which is an instance where the elder spoke through the medium.
Time to wrap it up. I've shared a few thoughts along the way but there's not a 'point' to this post beyond introducing the thoughts of the beings as represented in these transcripts for your consideration. I noted some interesting similarities and a few (perhaps stylistic?) differences between these entities and other sources I'm familiar with.
I guess from here we can discuss anything that's interesting to you of the above, or perhaps share thoughts on the root question, "How long before we could become a collective?"
💜🙏, Poorhaus