u/quiet-banana

Paring down my learning resources
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Paring down my learning resources

tldr: this is my plan for how to do things in some order to avoid getting frustrated

background: my husband is Taiwanese American, I'm white, we have kids. My in-laws are very patriotic about Taiwan and I've heard them speaking Taiwanese around me when we see them for many years. They speak excellent English too. I only speak English and languages unrelated to Taiwanese, also no Mandarin.

motivation: my Scottish great grandma spoke Scots Gaelic but so few people speak it now. With Taiwanese there is a chance to keep the language going. I love an underdog story. I want to make it possible for my kids to learn something. I want to understand the first generation and their friends at thanksgiving but that might be a high bar.

materials I have access to: FormosaTV: https://www.youtube.com/@FTV_TaiwanLectureHall), Bitesize Taiwanese podcasts and workbooks with audio: (https://bitesizetaiwanese.com/), Taiwanese grammar: a concise reference by Philip Lin, Spoken Hokkien textbook and audio: (https://speaktaiwanese.com/spoken-hokkien/), Anki on desktop: (https://apps.ankiweb.net/) MkDict website - several dictionaries with audio:(https://mkdict.net/) , Oo-Inn app apple and android: (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ooinn.tarodictandroid&hl=en-US), occasional conversation or text with in-laws, this website with a bunch of songlyrics for Taiwanese songs: (https://taikegui.wordpress.com/), Wikipedia article says Pimsleur's paper on spaced repetition listed times of 5 seconds, 25 seconds, 2 minutes, 10 minutes, 1 hour, 5 hours, 1 day, 5 days, 25 days, 4 months, and 2 years

method: first I learned Tâi-lô, pronunciation and tones using Oo-Inn app and the tone and tone sandhi diagrams from Spoken Hokkien. Started spaced repetition to review. Now working through bitesize Taiwanese newbie workbook. I listen to each podcast episode a couple times, then use spaced repetition to just listen and look at the workbook pages, just for a day or so. Then I add this into Anki using garageband to chop up the audio files for my cards. I use cloze and have some other formats for the sentences. I set my computer to allow Unicode input for the 8th tone a̍ accent and capital letters with tone 5: Ô.

I tried looking at FormosaTV and translating it using Oo-Inn app but I know so little grammar the best I can do is recognize a word here and there. I do plan on learning hanji eventually.

So for now, the plan is work through all the Tâi-lô resources: bitesize taiwanese workbooks and maybe their scenes book and the song website, using anki, then switch Oo-Inn to Pe̍h-ōe-jī and memorize the alphabet that way, (it's not that different but I was getting confused trying to do Spoken Hokkien at the same time), work through Spoken Hokkien using Anki and start seriously reading the grammar (also in Pe̍h-ōe-jī) start reading some Taiwanese wikipedia articles (there are almost half a million!) and maybe some of the Bible (https://bible.thepoj.com/) which has [audio of the same translation](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRAuE-XaUBp5P5c2QVAKcbkCe5aV_RAwa).

Then it will be time to start on hanji. Formosa TV is a good resource. Maybe I'll learn bopomofo and look for some texts with bopomofo next to the hanji, the way kids learn. Oo-Inn has courses for the first 700 words using hanji. Most yt accounts that post Taiwanese content and songs if they have subtitles, they're in hanji so not too worried, especially with a grammar textbook. I suppose when I find a 1 or 2 minute video I like, spaced rep the clip and add the words to anki to memorize.

Interested to hear your experience and suggestions. Thanks and have fun!

u/quiet-banana — 9 days ago