Some considerations about Artemis 3 crew - part 3
Premise: This is a continuation of my previous two posts in this sub (first part, second part). I tried to calculate various probabilities, they should be correct but i advice to do your calculation if they don't seem right. All the probabilities refer for an all men crew.
About Artemis 3 crew selection, i see a lot of comments that the probability for an all men crew is about 14%. The comments consider that:
- NASA has 37 active astronauts, 22 men and 15 women.
- ESA has 11 active astronauts, 3 women and 8 men.
The probability for all men crew is:
22/37 x 21/36 x 20/35 x 8/11 (ESA) = 0.1441 -> 14.41%
If everyone was from NASA, the probability is:
22/37 x 21/36 x 20/35 x 19/34 = 0.1108 -> 11.08%
In reality, there are only 36 active astronauts from NASA because Stanley Love has left active flight status in 2010 but he is still listed as an active astronaut in the NASA website, thus NASA has 36 active astronauts, 21 men and 15 women.
In addition, only the group of Parmitano was eligible for the Artemis mission, they are 6 people, 1 woman and 5 men. (Peake retired in 2022)
The probability in this case is:
21/36 x 20/35 x 19/34 x 5/6 (ESA) = 0.1552 -> 15.52%
That is without taking in consideration who was occupied of the 36 from NASA and 6 of ESA. (is in space now, just landed, assigned to another mission)
- For NASA, there were eligible 20 people, 12 men and 8 women.
- For ESA, there were eligible 5 people, 4 men and 1 woman.
The probability in this case is:
12/20 x 11/19 x 10/18 x 4/5 (ESA) = 0.1543 -> 15.43%
However, two test pilots were assigned as commander and pilot for the mission, in this case,there is the problem of which role was for the ESA astronaut.
- If the ESA astronauts was the commander or pilot, only Parmitano would be eligible
- If the ESA astronauts was a mission specialist, there would be eligible 5 people, 4 men and 1 woman.
NASA has 15 test pilots but only 8 were eligible, 5 men and 3 women. It also has 21 non test pilots which 12 were eligible, 7 men and 5 women.
The propabilities in these case are:
- With ESA test pilot
5/8 (test pilot) x 7/12 (mission specialist) x 6/11 (mission specialist) x 1 (ESA test pilot) = 0.1989 -> 19.89%
- With ESA mission specialist
5/8 (test pilot) x 4/7 (test pilot) x 7/12 (mission specialist) x 4/5 (ESA non test pilot) = 0.1667 -> 16.67%
Now, i calculate the probabilities for all the roles of the Artemis 3 mission knowing that:
- Randy Bresnik: Commander,already 2 missions in space, test pilot.
- Luca Parmitano: Pilot,already 2 missions in space, test pilot.
- Andre Douglas: Mission Specialist, never flew.
- Frank Rubio: Mission Specialist, already 1 mission in space.
For the commander, only Bresnik and Douglas H. Wheelock are test pilot with more than 1 mission in space
The probability for a man as commander is 2/2 -> 100%
For the pilot:
- For ESA astronaut, only Parmitano is eligible
the probability for a man as pilot is 1/1 -> 100%
- For NASA astronaut, i considered the test pilots with at the least 1 mission in space, so the astronauts were Bresnik, Wheelock, Matthew Dominick, Jasmin Moghbeli, Raja Chari, Nicole Mann and Robert Hines.
Although, there were 7 people in total, in reality they were 6 , 2 women and 4 men, because the commander would be either Bresnik or Wheelock anyway.
the probability for a man as pilot is 4/6 = 0.6667 -> 66.67%
For the mission specialist with 1 mission in space behind, test pilots or not:
- For ESA astronaut, there were Samantha Cristoforetti, Alexander Gerst, Andreas Mogensen, Parmitano and Matthias Maurer.
They are 6 people in total, 1 woman and 5 men. (Beside Maure, everyone have done 2 missions in space)
the probability for a man as mission specialist is 5/6 = 0.8333 -> 83.33%
- For NASA, there were Rubio, Bob Hines, Matthew Dominick, Loral O'Hara, Jasmin Moghbeli, Warren Hoburg, Kayla Barron, Raja Chari and Nicole Mann.
They are 9 people in total, 5 men and 4 women.
the probability for a man as mission specialist is 5/9 = 0.5556 -> 55.56%
(Although, if one of those was chosen as pilot, the probability would be instead 5/8 or 4/8)
For the mission specialist who never flew before:
- For ESA astronaut, i considered the last selection of 2022, there were Pablo Álvarez Fernández, Rosemary Coogan, Raphaël Liégeois and Marco Sieber.
They are 4 people in total, 3 men and 1 woman
the probability for a man as mission specialist is 3/4 = 0.75 -> 75%
- For NASA astronaut, there were Andre Douglas, Christina Birch and Jessica Wittner
They are 3 people in total, 1 man and 2 women.
the probability for a man as mission specialist is 1/3 = 0.3333 -> 33.33%
With those values, the probabilities for a crew with all men based on the ESA astronaut role are:
2/2 (commander) x 1/1 (ESA test pilot) x 5/9 (mission specialist) x 1/3 (mission specialist who never flew before) = 0,1851 -> 18.51%
2/2 (commander) x 4/6 (test pilot) x 5/6 (ESA mission specialist) x 1/3 (mission specialist who never flew before) = 0,1850 -> 18.50%
2/2 (commander) x 4/6 (test pilot) x 5/9 (mission specialist) x 3/4 (ESA mission specialist who never flew before) = 0,2778 -> 27.78%
For an mission with all NASA astronaust:
2/2 (commander) x 4/6 (test pilot) x 5/9 (mission specialist) x 1/3 (mission specialist who never flew before) = 0,1233 -> 12.33%
At the end, the probability was 18.51% for a crew like the actual Artemis 3.
But there were other factors to take in consideration that are difficult to quantify as a probability. These are some examples:
- Even if all the astronauts received the same basic trainings, the academic and work background is different from everyone so the mission requirements or experiments are more suited for an astronaut than another.
- Some of the astronauts with 2 or more missions behind aren't involved directly with Artemis programm.
- Crew 14 hasn't the commander and pilot yet. If, it is like Crew 13, there will be either Christina Birch or Jessica Wittner as pilot and there will be either Matthew Dominick, Loral O'Hara, Jasmin Moghbeli, Warren Hoburg, Kayla Barron, Raja Chari or Nicole Mann as commander.
- Some astronauts with at the least 1 mission behind have administrative or support roles at NASA. There are also some involved with the development team for various aspects of the Artemis programm on the ground.