Related to previous define god post

Related to previous define god post

So my previous post was deleted because some people found the definition lacking but I wasn't trying to define god as it would take way too much space,so just the general idea so that if you were interested you can go look the idea up online.anyways this is my detailed debate

My Observation from last post

  1. many people simply didn't care about other's opinion and believed their own( which I highly respect and would encourage others to do so)

  2. some people wanted undeniable proof or unfalsifiable claim kinda like a definite cemented answer that God exists so I am gonna debate those guys

I claim rebirth and afterlife exists but none created universe as a supreme creator.I believe in the definition of spiritual being and other things related to it but I don't follow vedas.Jain and Buddhist philosophy resonate the most with me.(You can search them up to know more about my claim don't wanna stretch it out more than it is)

My points

1)The idea of rebirth- There are several cases around the world where babies or children have solved murder mysteries of someone who died in a family that is complete stranger to their's

One. Of the most prominent one is

https://vritant.substack.com/p/meet-shanti-devi-the-reincarnation

Still if you find this scripted or something next point for you

  1. Everybody heard of paranormal activities ,explain them and if you say they are framed (move on to next) or they are just forces science is not yet aware of then can't the same be said for spiritual world??

3)This one's a little complex and even I am a little underconfindent:

Consciousness and matter are two separate existence that exist parralell to each other and cannot interconvert. Like the dualism philosophy in indian books dictate consciousness is not viewed as a byproduct of the brain or a bundle of thoughts. Instead, it is defined as the fundamental, independent, and self-luminous foundation of existence that illuminates all knowledge and experience.consciousness is the blank white screen, while thoughts are the moving pictures projected onto it. Under this category lies spirit .also for existence of consciousness as a separate entity Samkhya philosophers pointed out that the material body is an object that can be perceived, measured, and analyzed. An object cannot perceive itself.(An object needs subject) Therefore, the very act of observing or experiencing the body requires a completely separate, non-material observer (Sakshi or Purusha).

Lastly I would like to say just like I cannot definitely convince you of god or spiritual world's existence you cannot convince me otherwise (coz u can't claim many other philosophy ideas false with definite proof like Shankaracharya) thus as I said we should all be like people no. 1

u/realitygawd1 — 8 days ago

Define god

God is the creator, operator and destroyer of universe but in Indian philosophy there are 3 different ideas of god

  1. astik darshan(would classify christanity here)

They believe the above definition of god

  1. nastik darshan

They don't believe God as the creator of world but many have their own definition yet the common point is no supreme entity created universe

  1. atheism

They don't believe in existence of spiritual being

Then there is Advaita Vedanta where world is defined as a dream of Brahma(I don't know where to put this one ). Personally I believe nastik darshan as I find it more logical and rational than others but still I would like your thoughts which one do you prefer and why do you reject other three( it can be personal reasons like it gives you comfort and all and that's okay because that's what religion is,A guide on how to lead life)

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u/realitygawd1 — 8 days ago

Rene descartes

I think Rene descartes's famous quote "I think therefore I am" is doubtful since he started doubting everything and in the end came to the conclusion that the mind is a part created by perfect being God and that God would not deceive him aur show him false images of the world. There are two mistakes in this philosophy

  1. he considered that got existed which cannot be considered since he was doubting everything and his conclusion was that one thing cannot be doubted and that is that the process of doubting is being done by someone and that someone is the real brain which was created by God but even though you can't doubt the real brain you can doubt the existence of a God and that the real brain is nothing but a supercomputer

  2. even if we were to consider the existence of god how would you make sure that he is showing you the correct images of this world and he is not the one fooling you for example a person addicted to drugs may see the world different then when he is sober then can't we consider that the real brain is a part made by the God to trick is into seeing a world which is not true and that when we dull our senses We see The real World which the God wants to hide.

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u/realitygawd1 — 11 days ago