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The problem with the Volapük flag

Now I want to discuss in detail the issue of the Volapük flag, which has been written about a lot in Volapük, but there isn’t enough information in English. Many websites (for example, Facebook group, the former official website of the International Community of Friends of Volapük) use the flag designed by Michael Everson around 2010, influenced by the Esperanto flag: a schematic purple globe in a yellow square in the upper left corner of a purple field (the Esperanto flag: a green star in a white square in the upper left corner of a green field). Michael Everson explained the need for the flag as follows:

“We all know that Esperanto is identified by the green star, and that they have a flag, which could be blazoned "Vert, on a canton argent a star vert" (a green flag with a green star in a white canton). Green is certainly the colour of Esperanto.  <…>

It turns out that Volapük also has colours: Gold and Purple. Or Yellow and Lilac.

The source for this is a web page on Danish Volapükist Malling Hansen,  <…> Here is the text: <…>

[In English:]

"One of the Charlottenburg Art Exhibitions during the 1880s included a painting by Engelsted depicting the so-called Quartet: Malling-Hansen, head teacher Kaper (father of the mayor), Director Ritzau (the founder of Ritzau's News Agency), and the keeper of the archives of the War Office, captain Feilborg, as they are sitting around a table playing a game of ombre. These 4 men and their wives – all of them on familiar terms with each other – used to meet during the winter season once a week for a game of cards. Quite often this was combined with some other amusing activity, for instance M.-H arranged a Volapük-dinner, having copied the menu in Danish as well as Volapük – except for the wine which in both languages was designated "pumpenhejmer". The lamps and the table were decorated and covered with the Volapük colours – yellow and mauve. It was very festive and amusing."

Danish "gul" certainly means 'yellow', and "lilla" means 'mauve, lilac'.

I think we should celebrate this by using these colours!”

(Aug 29, 2010, Yahoo groups)

So, Volapük needs a flag just as much as Esperanto does; the colour scheme of the flag should be based on tradition — two colours of Volapük. Unfortunately, the “tradition” mentioned in the Malling Hansen Society’s message is presented with omissions: 1) in fact, there were three colours of Volapük; 2) they were used not only to decorate the interior, but also on ribbons and flags in a certain sequence — even before the Esperanto flag was created (and even before its first textbook was published). That is, the flag doesn’t need to be invented; it needs to be remembered! But to do that, one had to read the press of the 19th century, primarily in Volapük.

In fact, Schleyer first wrote about the colours of Volapük in 1885: “Si! äslik vp. ailabom ya monogami oma, leiko ailabom i kölis kil oma, o. b. violeti, golüdi e glüni, bi vp. ebeginom müko, äs viòl; nedom al mostep golüdi mödik; e spelom, aiblinön läbadi gletikün menade” — “Yes, just like Volapük already has its own monogram, it has its own three colours, namely purple, gold, and green, because Volapük was at first modest, like a violet; it requires a lot of gold for its development; and it hopes to bring the greatest good to the mankind” (Volapükabled, 1885, N. 59, publication No. 632). In heraldry, the gold is used as a name of yellow. This is interesting, that green as the color of hope is mentioned before the emergence of Esperanto symbolism.

Later, at the Volapük Bureau in Constance it was possible to order distinctive three‑colour Volapük signs (Volapükabled, 1886, N. 66, publication No. 716), namely: “a. tans lonedikum (zi blöti) ko välapüked ‚Menadè bal pükì bal!‘ plo maks bal e lafik; e. tans blefik (len ketis pokaglokas) leigo sa välapüked plo fenigs tels” — “a) longer ribbons (around a chest) with the motto ‘One humanity, one language’ for one and a half marks; b) short ribbons (for a pocket watch chain) for twenty pfennigs.” Schleyer specifically clarified the order in which the colours should be arranged: “Leod kölas kil vpk. aibinom at: diso glün, zenodo golüd, löpo violet: also len stäns, sköts e votöpo…” — “The order of the three Volapük colours is always as follows: green at the bottom, gold in the middle, and violet at the top — this is how it is on flags (!), coats of arms, and so on…” (Volapükabled, 1889, N. 98, publication No. 1514, point 50).

Three‑colored ribbons were used at events. For example, for the Second Volapük Congress in Munich (1887), a master Rudolf Kubics produced Volapük ribbons with brooches. At the banquet of the Second Congress, “the menu was exquisitely executed in the three Volapük colours: purple, gold, and green” — “Lised zibas äbinom peblimöl lejöniko me köls vpik: violet, golüd e glün” (Cogabled volapükelas, https://wikisource.org/wiki/Nunod_d%C3%B6_kongef_telid_vpanas_in_M%C3%BCnchen_1887.) In 1900, the Volapük club in Styria proposed that all Volapük speakers participating in the World’s Exchibition in Paris wear tricolour ribbons — purple, gold, and green — as identification marks (“polön nefikulo logiko tanili kilkölik vpk (o. b. violetik, golüdik e glünik) as lesevamaloti vpanas” — Volapükabled, 1900, N. 234, p. 975). In Russia, there was a tradition of giving bouquets in Volapük colours: the bud was purple, the stem was green, the bouquet was fastened with a golden ribbon (or a golden inscription was made on one leaf). In the cap of the newspaper “Jveizapot”, the personified Switzerland rested on a shield (escutcheon) with the image of the globe, and the escutcheon was divided into three parts: purple (dotted lines from the lower-left corner to the upper-right corner), gold (dots) and green (obliques from the upper-left corner to the lower-right corner).

Thus, the flag of Volapük has long been a tricolor (purple/violet, yellow, green). Along with this, a complex coat of arms was used, which in the 20th century was replaced by the well-known Volapük emblem. No one abolished the tricolor — it was simply forgotten. There were no events where it needed to be used. Nevertheless, the historical flag of Volapük (not trimmed down to a two‑color scheme and not imitating the Esperanto flag) is also used today. You can see it in online groups on Discord, Telegram and Vkontakte, and in the header of the official organ “Vög Volapüka”. Ironically, if Malling Hansen’s biography contained more complete information, there would be no need to invent a new flag. It is logical to consider it the official symbol of some websites, but not of the entire movement.

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u/simmilare — 13 days ago

Katalonänapükanes.

Bukem Volapükapübotas pro Katalonänapükans nu labon i gramati lölöfik (tradutod lebuka pro sperantans fa hiel André Cherpillod). / The library of Volapük publications for speakers of Catalan now has a complete grammar (a translation of a work originally written for Esperanto speakers by André Cherpillod).

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u/simmilare — 13 days ago

Lampör in lebüdacem okik.

Etuvob tradutodi lida fa el ‚Van der Graaf Generator’ tiädü ‚The Emperor in his War-Room’ (1970).

I. Lampör.

Stanölo in spadäd, kel neleton ad rivön oli binode ledasümik stilik neita,

cedol, das kanol kipön goldi lehitik ä pesmeitöli bevü doats olik…

Ab säsleafon duflumölo, sleitölo tändenis pö kul oka,

nüdükölo vieti doatayoinas…

Mid e metal fomons tonatis in tonatotafomot…

 

Klädölo güni ola pos väl utanas, kels cedü ol sötons-la deadön… —

Seatölo su lubel… kripölo love fenätabam ini lomöfacem olik,

kofudükons me lulogam: kaps nen zeils labü logs glätöfik,

koaps fa vulturs pedasleitöls…

Binol men, nams kelana mismelons me smel deada,

„Savan neläbanas”, „Jelätan nennämikanas”,

„Flen geilikanas”, „Kipedan püda”…

Ag! ye at binon lifamod balik, keli sevol…

 

Lülogölo meli: plen peplatüköl lalegas, kels labons nosi lifa,

deipedol lifikosi in pun olik, du lad olik pakidon fa lips deadalanana.

Späks trätons oli, späks trätons oli, neito ravons logi ola

se logakev onik…

E glöp lagon, efalölo sui cüg olik.

Linegs daplonöl seilikons; milats mudas pafulükons ko metal ruilik.

Logod olik labon kölüli grüna; ön mod seimik steifülol ad spikön to moükabots valik at in mud olik.

Ab atos no osekömon plödio, e no kanol stukön vödis,

du luson olik

glömädükom fami olik äsvo lefilükölo e fefilol.

„Savan neläbanas”, „Jelätan nennämikanas”,

„Flen geilikanas”, „Kipedan püda”.

Ag! ye at binon lifamod balik, keli sevol…

 

II. Cem.

Lifol-la yufü gläv, ed odeadol ön mod leigosoik,

nämäd lölik ola oläsikon ad nos,

lif alik, keli moükol, binon dil uta lönik olik,

utos, keli eremol, binon no nämäd, ab deadam.

 

Blotikölo in cem olik (du bünunans fäta stepons sui soliad olik),

begölo ad blebükön oli lifiki (du neif nenbümicödik nüdranon ini mid luvokädöl ola…

nen desin badöfik, balugiko desumölo tripi sasenana),

mutol pelön givuloti a het, e givulot somik binon lan olik…

 

Lifol-la in püd u deadol-la laidüpio in lebüdacem olik!

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u/simmilare — 24 days ago

Fluküp yela: 2026.

Sis brefüp fluküp evedon küpovik. Fluküp: tim oksasenanas e bledas deadik su vegs, tim, stamäd in nem kela tonon äs lukof uto, kö kanoy logön de fluks valik magifik vola te podis smalik lafo puridikis e bälis biedik ut (bo sorbs) su tuigs, kelis te böds ai faemiks fidons. Zuo reinos me tofs koldik, äsvo me drens deadalanana fenik… Ye no sötobs däsperön, bi süadobs, das hitüp odönukömon — pos tim ad tumyels anik usümöl.

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u/simmilare — 1 month ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (22).

Ön mod ebo at datuvot gretik nog bal sovyätatimäda äbrekon laidüpio. Too ba jenöfo no laidüpio — ibo nek ästeifülon ad nätükön oni. Nätükan televidömas äsagom nes logedön: „Remolöd televidömi nulik, no plu mekoy fagototölatianilis somik!” Ye ‚Semjon Isakovich’ no äremom televidömi nulik, ab äkösömom ad pedön klavis su elot Ehlektron bäldik me jonastaf. E no ämojedom fagototölatianili pibreiköl, ab änüseitom oni ini bokil ed äklänedom in pemodaboed dis nufed. E tölatianil jünu us pategon me püf, e ba ek otuvon yegi at ed onätükon oni. U ba ek ya etuvon e ya enätükon — mastans somik no nog emoikons bevü obs, pöp obsik bepluon tefü nätükam valanis su planet obas! Ga egeblinoy piadi di ‚Komsomol’ sui top büik, zuo so skilo enägedoy slitodis valik, das gäp nonik komädon; if dalogoyöv, leno niludoy, das seimna peveigon lü ‚Klin’. Kanoy nätükön vali, üf bejäfoyöv fefiko dini at. Ye vali sötoy-li nätükön? Säk ebo at veüton.

FIN.

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u/simmilare — 2 months ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (21).

E sekü letir süpik at ‚Semjon Isakovich’ no äplöpom ad stanön me lögs okik ed äleadom sturön küli lölik vetik okik kurato sui flanastutöm kovenastula okik. E fagototölatianil ad mastön tefü komunanef äseaton su flanastutöm at… Benö! brekö! Yeg no ädulifädon nätiko flapi somik. Kobädimans vönik no äkanons büologön küli so gretiki!

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u/simmilare — 2 months ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (20).

Te ‚Semjon Isakovich Guev-Grivenshtein’ balik äküpom nosi e no ävilom küpön bosi. No älülogom prinsipiko televidareklami, dat no öfulükom breini sapik oka me jodem. E sosus änunädoy medü televid reklamapaudi pläik, sunädo älöjutedom de kovenastul ed äblümikom ad rönön lü prifet…

…ab pö timül ebo ot dom ko löd onik süpo älemufon balna! süpo ädremon! e süpo jüton lü ‚Klin’ kobü piad lölik di ‚Komsomol’!

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u/simmilare — 3 months ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (19).

Täno luman: ‚Pätja’ reafom ad suemön, das leno binom lindiyan u papuvan, ab suno ovedom-la kusadäb. E nenzogo säjäfidükom mufükiani e debunom de lemüf lü bimülem nilikün. Ye no plu oklänedom oki seimöpo. Nu ga binom televidafaman, käms deg tü timül at ga lüodons lü om, e fug omik padajonon as jen nemediko pabroadöl medü kanädäds tumteldegmäl, e balionats televidalüloganas spetätiko daküpedons omi sis timül ebo ut, kü elöpiogrämom ini stiranaspadäd. Mödikans ettimo ya eküpons stadi oma ed ebüosenons, das plösen fütürik obinon vero plödakösömik.

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u/simmilare — 3 months ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (18).

Beijutedons in fenät ‚Khimki, Skhodnja, Firsanovka, Krjukovo’ — e te zi nilü ‚Klin’ luman: ‚Pätja’ < süpo reafom ad suemön, stupoti kiovemik enu edunom. Balidnaedo evedom libik — o stupan kiom! — e de pärun, e de jenöf, e ön tefs valik! Lülogedom lokili pro selogam pödik — e küpom, das vedom libik de nos. Din vero güöfik ejenon: jenöf lölik vabon po om! Sevabo piad lölik di ‚Komsomol’ kobü harats züöl, stajonabumots kil, nenlomans, ‚menty’, trenatävans, televidakvips, gasedimans, lülogans e cif lemüfigarada, hikel nenropo bleibom vokädön bosi ini radionakosädöm…

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u/simmilare — 3 months ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (17).

Luman: ‚Pätja’ löpiogrämom ini stiranaspadäd, e hicif lemüfigarada vispom ome büdülis: „Letirolöd vifükamakurbi”, so sagom, „ab no nämiko, dat noid gretik odavedon, e sek nonik.” Ab luman: ‚Pätja’ tikom: „Lenosi ole, ifi sugolöv len penid obik! o cifil! Ob sovemo oletirob patiko pro ol, das dastun obinon!” E sunädo mufükom stafakurbis valik lü malats löpikün kedotema; lemüf lenoidon, luibs noidülons, spadäd omik vedon filamahitik, kölinacips falons! Cif vokädom dub radionakosam: „O ‚Pätja’! säjäfidükolöd motori! So lemüf garada obik pobreikon fa ol!” Ab luman: ‚Pätja’ < no klemedom. Pedom sui klav redik nesevädik ömik — e lemüf jutedon de plad oka, e juton föfio, sunädo erivölo vifoti milmetas lultum a düp! Luman: ‚Pätja’ < stadom ön stäat, penid omik löikom, lelaodiko vokädom lidis militik ä lomänälikis turno ko lunofavöds nedälik, senälom nämädi so vemiki, äsva binom-la heroedan, flitömistiran, lindiyan, papuvan! Godö! zesüdosös ad lifön demü minuts ebo soiks!

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u/simmilare — 3 months ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (16).

Himastan gleipom omi len nükaskin, koedom löstanön omi me tridod, vispom laodiko ini lil: „O ‚Petja’! no bitolöd nenjemiko! Sunädiko gololöd ad vobön! o kanayan! Voto onegenükob oli!” Histitans lästepoms ad yufön mastani, e me töbids kobädik mosleifoms lumani: ‚Pätja’ ini pärun. E cif lemüfigarada, menamödot, mens ko televidakäms ya komons us — klu no labom mögi ad gegolön. E ya koedoy sumodön kämis valaflano ad jafädön magodi gretamafädik, sodas igo no sötos-la blasfämön me zanädavöds nedälik.

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u/simmilare — 3 months ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (15).

E lemüficinädan no vaböl dabinom te balan: luman: ‚Pätja’* ko kofanem: ‚Petrov-Vodkin’**. Enu ekömom pos veig, ab ya eplöpom ad juitön***. Ekö! seatom in dünanacem e lenofom me zanädavöds nedälik valanis. Sagom ma siäm sökölosi: däsperolsöd! Ya takädob e leno ostirob treni lü top alseimik demü mesed alik!

* Fom nema: ‚Petja’ < ma pron neverätik, kel binon smilikodöl.

** Famülanem pänana Rusänik sevädik. Dil telid famülanema pedefomon de subsat: ‚vodka’ ( = gein), kludo nem at pagebon cogiko tefü ludrinans.

*** Sevabo: ad juitön lalkoholi.

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u/simmilare — 3 months ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (14).

E bligäd vemo fikulik esükon pö himastan lemüficinädanas: tü tim ebo ot, ünü minuts deglul ad otuvön lemüficinädani no vaböli ed ad okoedön seadön omi len stiraluib. Voto reklam leno pojafädonöv, e vüo monasuäm gretik ya pefipelon tä on.

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u/simmilare — 3 months ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (13).

…ekö! jö! ibä älöfom kebatiedi. Ye hiels menty* äsagoms: „Odavestigobs, odavestigobs, tiedi kinik labol”. Ädefärmükoms lemüficinädani in fanäbacem lecekasümik, ädesumoms ome telefonömi polovik, äkonfiskoms tiedi, nenzogiko äfesmökoms oni äsä kebi lustorditöl ed ämogoloms lü pärun ad lülogön plöseni. Stanoms us e spikodoms odi: „Nenvöladoti kinik enu esmökobs-li? Va jenöfo binon-li tied?”

*El ment. Lunofavöd Rusänapükik tefü poldan.

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u/simmilare — 3 months ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (12).

Klu ekö! joned päjenükon. Älenkleiboy tö stajon di ‚Leningrad’ in ‚Moskva’ lemüfi susvobedik len pärun. Lülogans kiomödik äkömons! Televidakvip älüvabon — zuo no kvip bal, ab plunätöfo degs, keninükamü luls foginänik älüvabons! E valans ästanons, ärunädons, ädanaütons oki, ab lemüf ai no äprimon ad jäfidön. Ibä lemüficinädan…

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u/simmilare — 3 months ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (11).

Suemoyöv so kleiliko, äsä logoy stamodi in fot, das tefü proyeg levalaspadik at neodoy monemi susvemik, keli nek nunog labon. Sekü atos no äklänädoy nüni dö kleibin susvobedik, ab äleadoy tedön leliviko stöfi at. E ted valöpik neodon reklami legudik, vüo noe seimiki balugiki yufü nünöm pemeköli, abgüä jonedi jenöfik vobedas plödakösömik kleibina dasamik. As sam: pladoyöv lemüfi susvobedik oya, lenkleiboyöv oni me kleibin susvobedik len pärun, oprimon ad jäfidön, omufedon su top ot dü sekuns kildeg — e motor ona ovedon nejäfidik! Din ebo at binonöv reklam sio süperik — tapladü prodäts valasotik deätik cütidöl!

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u/simmilare — 3 months ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (10).

Sagobös nenzögo: ädatuvons kleibini susvobedik mölekülik. Soik, das ämögosöv me on ad ölenkleibön muni lä tal, e balid no ösediton, ab öbleibon tulön kobü tal, pianiko ödageton lutasferi, ed öveigobs usio taili, ömeikobs gadis, e poso ölenkleibobs len top ebo ot mardi, i venudi, ed ölabobs obsiki susgreta⸗susmafa⸗planeti gretik bal soik, das igo if ögonidoyöv dü milyels deg, alo öbinos us spadöfiko. E kul tala dub dinäd at övedon verätikum, e säsuns yela öprimons ad jenädön votiko, e mens östopedons ad komipön pro lifaspad, ab kobo öjäfons ad pöpön e kulivükön spadis nulik.

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u/simmilare — 3 months ago

DÖ DATUVOTS (9).

Proged plödakösömik äjenon sekü atos. Ädatuvoy ed ämekoy sus⸗lemüfi, kel sunädo pos start ärivon vifoti mö milmets lultum a düp ed äjuto⸗vabon de ‚Moskva’ lü ‚Piter’ (nem ludigidik ela Sänt⸗‚Peterburg’) ünü düp ko minuts nemödik. E lödans di ‚Piter’ äprimons ad vabön vifo, vemo vifo lü ‚Moskva’, e lödans di ‚Moskva’ vifo, vemo vifo lü ‚Piter’, e ya äprimoy ad notodön tikamagoti, das übinosöv gudik ad feapladön topami cifazifa ini ‚Bologoe’, dat e balidans, e votikans ösenonsöv koveni. E du somikos päbespikon, nolavans ädatuvons dini nog bali eli Bologoe no äteföli, ab flekatimüliki e necänidoviki.

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u/simmilare — 3 months ago
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Buk nulik.

Lorenz, Francisco Valdomiro, 1872—1957. Poezia Postrikolto / tradukis, mediumis, verkis Francisko Valdomiro Lorenz; kompilis Miĥaelo (Miguel) Bento. — 1-a eld. — Portalegro (Porto Alegre) : Terutero, 2026. — 337 p. — ISBN 978-65-975688-0-2 (nüned di ‚PDF’), 978-65-975688-1-9 (buk papürik). (Poedots rigik e petradutöls sperantiks, Volapükiks ed uts di ‚Ido’. Vödems Volapükik pepübons ko küpets pükavik fa ‚Hermann Philipps’: cifal.)

Ün yunul ayela buk balid at dabüköpa nulik: ‚Terutero’ pedabükon. Konletan: söl: ‚M. Bento’ < esteifom ad kobükön poedotis mödikün fa hiel ‚F. V. Lorenz’, kel sevädom as sperantan, do äbinom polüglot ed änolom mekavapükis difik. El ‚F. V. Lorenz’ (ettimo pänemom ‚František Vladimír Lorenc’) dü lif okik in topäd nutimik Tsyegäna ädalärnom Volapüki bäldotü yels deglul ed igo ägetom de cifal balid diplomi poedana Volapükik ün 1889. Äpoedoms mödikosi me Volapük, ab lautots tefik no ejinons pakipedön. Konletan konom in fovöds, vio pos suk vanik lunüpik eplöpom ad tuvön vödemis Volapükik anik, kelis enüpladom ini kompilalebuk. Nitedos, das hiel F. V. Lorenz it ävotabevobom tradutodis poedik anik okik timäda di ‚Schleyer’ ma menodots fa ‚Arie de Jong’, klu vödems tel pebükons fomü sotüls in dialegs cifik bofik Volapüka. Atos blöfon, das poedan famik neföro älüvom Volapükamufi. Zuo ma nuns se ‚VpN’ ‚Prof. Francisco V. Lorenz’ in Brasilän ägetom de cifal telid: ‚Albert Sleumer’ < diplomi stimalimana ün 1930 ed ävedom ün 1933 liman calöfik Volapükanefa se län ut, kel no älabon Volapükaklubi.

Ladet leäktronik: pad topeda: „Ragiv bevüresoda”; pad bevüresodik dabüköpa.

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