u/supafly208

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Tldr: what's your favorite way to practice/learn a new layout once you are past the 25wpm checkpoint in the learning process?

Those of you that have jumped layouts a few times, have you gotten the learning process down?

What worked best for you vs what didn't seem to help much?

First AKL was graphite and I went the keybr route. I set the passing threshold to 25 wpm. Once all letters were unlocked, it became my daily driver for work, games, etc. After 2 months I was at 45wpm or so and it was fine.

Felt like I was missing out by not using a thumb alpha so I picked up hands down promethium (HDP) over a weekend using

https://youtu.be/BAYc2Oo6\_pA?is=Yv3Au5ECgCggJKQu

No unlocking letters. Just memorize, frustratingly touch type, then chunk & burst. Was in the 20s wpm by the end of the weekend and it became my only layout for a few weeks. When I was in a pinch at work I would use voice to text. No biggie. I felt like I picked this one up quicker using this approach even though it added a thumb alpha, moved my space to the other side, and the enter key became a combo.

A buddy showed interest in learning an AKL. I showed him HDP but after 2 weeks or so, he realized that a thumb alpha layout was not for him. He went to Graphite and I went back as well to do it with him. (HDP rolls and layout are super fluid and satisfying, but some words just felt insanely clunky. Also wasn't sure if I was totally sold on the thumb alpha. I could have gone either way and been happy but I chose graphite to support my buddy)

I'm back learning graphite now and I kind of just went straight to using it for work. Just need to forget and relearn some muscle memory since the home row has a lot of shared keys but in different places. Back to 35-45wpm depending on if they're weird words or everyday words. Essentially back to where I was before HDP.

But... Back to the question. At this point, would you guys do keybr unlocking letters and increasing the threshold after each passthrough, monkeytype 10 words of English 450k in bursts, or just continue using it daily and let time do its thing?

Thanks!

Has anyone even used rewardhak? Highest scored layout on altalpha but I can't find much else about it?

Also, is the effort score on cyanophage.github.io comparable to comfort? (Lower being more comfortable)

I'm currently on graphite but would like to switch to a layout that's intended for column stagger. Open to a thumb alpha other than 'e'. Aside from it not made with column stagger in mind, I have no complaints about it, really.

Any recommendations? Valmak and Hands Down Promethium seem interesting but would like to see what the community thinks.

I don't care about vim, punctuation, or Ctrl shortcuts. I only type in English and I'm using a chocofi keyboard (aggressive column stagger 3x5+3)

Edit: JK I'm dumb. Found why it was made.

https://github.com/timvink/alt_alpha_ranker/issues/98

About a month into Graphite and I'm starting to feel it's too alternating for me. Feels too springy and I discovered that I really enjoy rolls.

I also really like the idea of an arcane key. I added one to my graphite keymap (on a thumb) to play around with and enjoy it.

Really tempted to abandon graphite for a roll heavy layout with an arcane key. Obviously, Magic Sturdy comes up a lot.

Question for anyone using magic sturdy or other layouts with adaptive keys: what are some words or sentences that just feeeeeel good to type? Going for satisfying and fluid; don't care if the learning curve is steeper.

Or

Is graphite rolly enough that I should just stick with it?

Thaaaaaaanks

I need one key to do the following (used in layer 2):

tap R
hold &mo 3
tap tap two Rs
tap tap hold &mo 0

Between the docs and claude, I've tried a few things but can't quite get it to go into layer 0. Maybe a timing issue with my tapping terms and quick-tap terms.

How would you do this?

or, if you suggest I go another route, here is what I'm struggling with... I want to learn the Night layout, but I do not want to lose left-handed undo/redo/cut/copy/paste and the shifted/windows variants.

layer 3 is to my FKeys that I use all the time
layer 0 is my qwerty layout that I'd go to for the left-handed undo/redo/cut/copy/paste and the shifted/windows variants.?.

UPDATE:
As many mentioned, it's a simple tapdance... BUT, I had to duplicate layer 0 (what I was trying to go to) onto a layer higher than where I was at (2). That was it. Thank you u/treequin

behaviors {

td_hold_tap: td_hold_tap {

compatible = "zmk,behavior-tap-dance";

label = "TD_HOLD_TAP";

#binding-cells = <0>;

bindings = <&lt 3 M>, <&lt 6 M>;

tapping-term-ms = <170>;

};

};