u/tarot-moon

So i just finished watching Nana for the first time as 22 years old girl.

As I was reading reviews and opinions I can’t help but to notice how majority of the fandom is so sensitive about anything slightly “bad” when it comes to characters or how much they defend some of the characters.

I love that each character is complex and, like in real life, no one is perfect.

My “hot” opinions:

HACHI — To me, she is very annoying and immature, and very dependent on the people around her. She is self-aware, but that doesn’t help because she makes mistake after mistake, and when you finally think she has learned something, she makes another mistake again.

She is sweet, though, and a good friend. I definitely feel like every girl has a part of Hachi in herself, especially when it comes to self-doubt and the way we view relationships.

Shouji is obviously bad for cheating, and I get why he gets so much hate, but Hachi wasn’t a good girlfriend either. She fell in love with other people multiple times while she was in a relationship with Shouji and flirted back with other guys.

If Shouji had done what Hachi did throughout their relationship, people would have dragged him way more.

She was just delusional and bad with boundaries, and the way she assumed that breaking up with Takumi meant she could be with Nobu is self-explanatory.
I don’t get people who defend her mistakes or ignore them just because she is sweet, a good friend, naive, and has an “I’m just a girl” mentality.

- NANA - she’s complex character as well, but self destructive. I admire her for being loyal friend and always there to defend you. I don’t have much to say about her aside from being avoidant and stubborn and “I have to do everything by myself” mindset which didn’t bring anything good, but she just grew up that way.

- REN - I really like this man, and I don’t get the hate he gets. Sure he was jerk for leaving Nana that easily but they were both young, that happens a lot in real world too.

About “killing” Nana part, I think people are overreacting. I don’t think it was that serious. They were both freaks and had their own flaws, and to be honest rock musicians are people who usually have “darker” view on love.

Their relationship was one of the deepest in show, they did love each other, they just had their own problems.

-JUNKO - I don’t see her as good friend as much as people are trying to make her seem. She was motherly towards Hachi but she was always cold and didn’t understand her on emotional level and saw her problems as something dumb.

-TAKUMI - He is bad as person but I don’t think he is that bad because he didn’t leave Hachi alone after she found out about pregnancy. He gave her rich lifestyle, met her parents and he was present.

UPDATE - I made a mistake that I didn’t specify that Takumi is rapist and instead I just called him bad and got called out. I agree what he did was wrong, I didn’t mention the rape because I mean that by what I said he’s bad person.

I saw bunch of tiktoks saying that 8th is always about sexual tension and pull.

I didn’t find on the internet more traditional and “not mainstream” explanation of this, so I am asking here.

So basically me and my bf are in 4yr relationship. He has a girl best friend that he knows for around 10 yrs since middle school. They both dated different people in the past and helped each other through tough times. She also dates someone else now.

Me and my bf have 8th house synastry. My moon and lilit fall into his 8th. I got curious and did their synastry (didn’t know her birth time), and saw that her moon, lilith and mars fall into his 8th house. And her venus in his 7th. Their moons are in conjunction while mine and his are in the same sign but not in conjunction.

I once asked him how they never dated or he never liked her since she is really pretty and a lot of his friends liked her. He told me that he never felt sexual connection towards her and that they never saw each other that way.

He has a venus in 11th house and he grew up having a lot of girl friends.

What do you guys think of this? Does anyone have similar stories. I rarely see anyone talking about 8th in terms of friendship. I know I may sound insecure and are probably overthinking all of this.

Dn me for trade reading :)

So am aquarius sun and libra rising.

One thing I noticed is that the guys that I tend to fall in love with really hard and the ones I attract the most are libra sun men with scorpio something.

For example my ex is libra sun with scorpio rising. The guy I was madly in love with before was libra sun and scorpio venus.

Also I noticed pattern with male actors for example If I really liked one and I would check their natal for fun I would see they are also libra sun men with scorpio placements 😭🤣

Jako dugo smo u vezi.

Imam osecaj da ne napredujemo kroz vezu, sve je isto od kad smo poceli da se zabavljamo. Nema dejtova, putovanja, iznenadjenja, spontanih momenata. Cela veza je blejanje kod moje ili njegove kuce i gledanje filmova.

Ne kazem da ne volim to ali ne ispunjava me da mi je to jedina stvar koju godinama radim sa deckom. Pokusala sam da predlozim da idemo negde, radimo nesto novo, on za sve ima glupe izgovore i ukratko boli ga uvo. Izignorise me na kraju. Vremenom su svadje oko toga sto je jako resivo postajale gore i postala sam ravna linija ka njemu.

Osecam se izmanipulisano na neki nacin jer ispada da smo kroz celu vezu radili samo sta je on hteo jer ne postoji momenat kad sam ga pitala za nesto i da je to ispunjeno bez svadjanja i kukanja.

I kad god pomenem da hocu nesto vise od blejanja kuci ili u parku ja ispadam sponzorusa ili neko ko trazi previse. Pritom lik nema ni vozacku a oboje smo u 20-setima i jedva ima posao a na kraju ja ispadam sponzorusa. ( a gurala sam ga i savetovala za njegovo dobro da polozi - pogodite sta, opet sam sponzorusa sto to pricam).

Za celu vezu izasli smo 2-3 puta na dejt i jedva sam ga posle 101000 svadja nagovorila da uzme jebeni buket cveca. Osecam se jadno dok ovo kucam.

Jedino sto mi se svidjalo kod njega je to sto je bio lojalan sto je jako tesko naci i to je jedino sto me donekle vuce za njega jer sam svesna da je takvo vreme danas da se lako vara.