“Stay with the Night Court and risk your ruin.”

“We’ll play later, Nesta Archeron”

and my personal favorite:

“When you tire of the animal, come find me. I’ll show you how a future High Lord plays.”

BUT THESE QUOTES PROBABLY MEAN NOTHING RIGHT????

Definitely not some kind of foreshadowing RIGHT??

The quote dropping today has me THINKING SOME THOUGHTS about what this means for our beloved characters. Could it be Nesta thinking about Cassian? Could it be Feyre thinking this about Cassian and Nesta? Could it be Feyre thinking it about Rhys??????

What do we think???

Hi hi!!! I thought it would be fun to have a little writing challenge :-) I did this in r/NerisTruthers earlier but thought others outside of that sub might like to try their hand too.

In exactly 100 words, write a lil mini scene of your OTP. Maybe they’re on a walk, maybe they’re flirting, maybe they’re eating breakfast in bed. Anything works!

this is not for debating, just for fun :)

We hit 300 members???

What started as a fun little sub for me to gush about Neris has turned into a full blown community.

To celebrate- should we have a writing challenge??

In 100 words, describe a scene with Nesta and Eris. Maybe they’re on a stroll in the woods, maybe they’re playing a heated game of chess, maybe they’re fucking nasty coughs reading books….

I’ll leave it up to you… :-)

Everyone’s like “ohhhh Elain is the happy one, she loves flowers and sunshine and rainbows, she only likes happy stuff and being happy!!” and “ohhhh Nesta is Dark and Emo and she would like Sad Scary stuff and No Happiness”

I’m here to say:

You are all wrong!!

Nesta canonically likes sappy romance books, she tells Cassian if they’re having a mating ceremony, she wants it to be mushy gushy! She invites her best girlies over for a sleepover, they indulge in chocolate cake, sit in a bathtub full of bubbles, and are the silliest, giggliest girls.

Now, we haven’t had Elain’s POV so this part is all headcanon but from what I gather:
Elain LOOKS like sunshine and rainbows on the surface but in the inside? She’s the neglected middle sister, she gets overlooked and babied.

So,

I think Elain is into SAD INDIE GIRL stuff. I think she LOVES movies that make people sob. I think she LOVES to write the most gut wrenching poetry and not share it with anyone. I think she LOVES “sad sack music” (thanks Hunt for the quote on that)

Anyways, this is my long winded way of saying: I think Elain watched Fire Walk With Me (prequel to Twin Peaks) and felt like she is Laura Palmer - the beautiful blonde girl who everyone loves but has no idea how sad she is on the inside, what kind of demons she’s fighting.

What point am I trying to make?
The happy, fun, sunshine girl is into sad indie shit and loves it, doesn’t even blink an eye. While the moody, emo, black cat girl is into sappy romances, and can’t stand watching anything too sad.

Hey, hi, hello ranters! The big Evil Mod is here to tell you that you will be seeing some new changes on this subreddit, and to please go ahead and yell at me now so we can get it over with ;-) (also, hi sloopies. can't wait to see you jerk this later <3)

First off, we need to clear the air. This sub is for EVERYBODY to rant, regardless of which "camp" they're in.

While we do allow people to share their critical opinions of this series, it's important to remember that ~everyone~ is allowed to participate. Some of you prefer Rhys, Feyre, the IC, etc. and some of you prefer Tamlin, Nesta, Lucien, etc. I want to make it clear that ALL of you are allowed to voice your opinions on characters here. With the new books coming out soon, we will have an influx of new readers on our sub. Let's keep this space welcoming towards all. <3

"So, what AM I allowed to rant about?" Oh, I thought you'd never ask!!! I've written up this handy dandy little cheat sheet for y'all to reference.

Rants that are acceptable:

• "I do not like Tamlin because of x, y, z"
• "I find Feyre insufferable because of _____"
• "I LOVE Nesta but HATE Cassian"
• "This fandom needs more positivity"
• "I HATE the way SJM wrote this scene"

Rants that are not acceptable:

• "Rhys faked his SA by Amarantha"

Edit: This goes for all characters. No debating if anyone was SA’d or not.

• "This [ship name]'s fans are EVIL"
• "You support SA/racism/sexism/ableism if you think this"
• general attacks on Sarah's personal life. Her writing style, plot choices or marketing is fine, but keep her personal life out of it.
• targeted harassment towards others including users of other subs, their mods, etc.

So what's changing?

I've added some new rules:

No Gatekeeping. There's a perception that this sub is only for Tamlin/Nesta/Anti-IC fans, which I'd like us to get away from. Saying things like "are you lost?" on someone's rant because they're Anti-Tamlin/Nesta or Pro-IC does not mean they aren't allowed to post here. Everyone is welcome here. Some of you may have seen me comment something similar to this on people's posts. I will continue doing so, but now it's an Official Rule!!!!!

Let people rant! This is similar to the "no gatekeeping" rule, but slightly different. Do not tell people to stop reading the books because they have a negative opinion on something. Some people like hate-reading, some people like criticizing books, and some people just enjoy being a hater. That's okay. Telling people to "stop reading" the books is boring and halts discussion, ultimately pivoting the conversation away from the main point and results in arguments. Instead, I encourage you to challenge their rant instead. If someone says "Rhys is abusive because he twisted Feyre's arm," reply with something like "actually, it was a bone shard from the Wyrm. Here's where it says that in the books." If someone says, "Tamlin is an abuser," reply with your own evidence on why you disagree. Keep it civil!

Let new readers come to their own conclusions. If someone is a new reader, please let them come to their own conclusions. Do not spoil them for future events in the books. Do not try to change their mind on certain scenes or characters. New readers will have a new post flair they can use "New Reader, Spoilers OK" or "New Reader - No Spoilers". We all were new readers once, and most of us do not want to be spoiled. If the new reader says spoilers are okay, then that's fine. If they do not want spoilers, try your best to not spoil them. If you must, use the spoiler tag. > ! no spaces between the exclamation points ! <

Discussion and debates are allowed, but as soon as it turns into personal insults is when the mods have to step in. We do not like banning people. Please don't make us ban you. If we have to remove more than 10 of your comments in a month, you will get temporarily banned. If it continues after that, you will be permanently banned.

Additionally, as a reminder:

• There's no victim blaming, no racism, no sexism, ableism, homophobia, or transphobia allowed.
• Absolutely no AI use is allowed. Posts, comments, or images that are suspected of AI will be removed. Write your thoughts yourself - it doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be from your own brain.
• No outside drama. Screenshots of posts or comments from other subs with the direct intention of clowning on them is not allowed.
• All posts get sent to the queue for mod approval. Sometimes it takes a while for us to approve it - this doesn't mean you necessarily did anything wrong! You can always send a modmail if it's been over 6 hours without a post approval, it'll help us see it sooner. If your post doesn't get approved, you will receive a reason as to why. If there's no reason, it just hasn't been approved yet!

If someone is engaging in bad faith arguments, trolling, or just being downright offensive: please report them and/or send a modmail. It's the fastest way to bring it to the mod's attention. I encourage you to disengage and move on if someone is behaving this way. Don't feed the trolls! Their stomach is bottomless and they'll never be satisfied.

*Basic Internet Safety Tips:

• Reddit does allow you to make your posts and comments on your profile private now. This is something you can do from your account settings. Anyone caught stalking or harassing users will be permanently banned from this sub and reported to Reddit.
• Do not doxx yourself. Be careful sharing links from IG or TikTok, as the links usually include your personal profile at the bottom.
• Block anyone that makes you feel unsafe, uncomfortable, or you just can't stand seeing their posts/comments. Blocking people is to protect your own peace. It is okay to block people.

All of that being said,

The rant sub is really fun. I loveeeee reading everyone's theories and some of the discussions I've read on here have definitely changed my outlook on certain characters. Some of the best times I've had in the ACOTAR fandom have been on the rant sub. I love seeing all the silly memes, the cracktheories, the "hear me outs". Let's keep it fun, yeah?

Finally,

These rules are not to limit discussion or censor anyone, but to keep this community from turning into a one-note echo chamber. We want everyone to feel comfortable posting here. Thank you for understanding. <3

Okay, did you read all that? Are you mad at me? :( sorry bestie. I still love you!

"Excuse me ranters, sorry to bother you. I just have one more thing-"

We also aren't allowing any leaks about the upcoming books. Silly posts about leaks are allowed. Silly isn't banned.

EDIT:

After some feedback, I wanted to clear some things up.

debating, denying, or invalidating depictions of SA regarding ANY character is not allowed on this sub.

while this sub thrives on critical discussion, posts/comments that invalidates or debates SA quickly creates an unsafe environment for survivors in our community.

mentioning Rhys specifically in my “not allowed” guideline was meant as a general example, not an exception for him only.

moving forward, let’s keep this sub a safe space for everyone in our community. thank you 🩷

Hello, hello debaters!

I hope you’re all having a lovely end to your August.

With September quickly approaching (uh….tomorrow??) that means it’s time for the September Icon Poll!!!!

After looking through all the past winners, we’ve had Bryceriel, Azris, Elriel and the Valkyries! So now it’s time for…….🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁

ELUCIEN VS GWYNRIEL!

This poll will run for 24 hours :-)
Pick your faves! Share your favorite fan art in the comments below! ✨🦄🗡️🎶🦇🌸🔥✨

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Omggggggggg purrrrrrrrrrr this is the best day ever for you and your friends isn’t it? Did all your hopes and dreams come true?? Are you feeling ecstatic and ready to rock and roll???

Tell me all about it in here besties. Give me your theories for what you think is going to happen in the next books.

This is NOT “hahaha those losers suckkkk I’m so smart and cool I KNEW it all along”
This IS “I was a little worried about what this meant for my fave character but now I’m excited!”

Be nice or else 🔪

Also be good I’m on the train with spotty service

Wowwwwwieeeeeee okayyyyyyy so I know yall have a LOT to say about the book announcements. In order to keep things a little clearer and less spammy, let’s keep all BAD FEELINGS about the books in this megathread.

You’re upset? Angry? feeling hopeless? Tell me all about it bestie in the comments below.

This is NOT for “hahaha u loser ur ship sank” bc that’s really mean and nasty and we don’t want that here

This IS for “I am feeling confused about what this means for my favorite character” or general ranting

No fighting
Be nice
Or else 🔪

Also pls forgive badly unorganized megathread post im currently on the train with minimal service ok thanks love u byeeeeee

Hellllllllo debaters!!!

It’s officially pride month in the USA so that means we’re going to do a poll of queer ships to decide our next sub icon!! We’re only going to run this poll for a day so be sure to cast your votes :-)

Feel free to share your favorite (credited) queer fanart in the comments below 🌈

Happy polling ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜✨

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Do you think Feyre is actually a bad character, or do you think she was just poorly written?

Now, I like Feyre, but I always felt she was just *missing* something. I’m not sure what. Are the stakes too low? Was she written too predictably for my taste?

Let’s discuss Feyre. Deep dive into why you like/dislike her, what went wrong/right, what you would/wouldn’t change about her.

Keep it friendly. No personal insults! These characters aren’t real and their feelings can’t get hurt, but the people behind a Reddit comment you’re arguing with can. Don’t make me come after you 🔪🔪🔪 💋🩷