
🏜️🏜️🏜️ 2666 - Week Nine Discussion: The Part About Archimboldi, Part 2 🏜️🏜️🏜️
>When these stars cast their light, we didn’t exist, life on Earth didn’t exist, even Earth didn’t exist. This light was cast a long time ago. It’s the past, we’re surrounded by the past, everything that no longer exists or exists only in memory or guesswork is there now, above us, shining on the mountains and the snow and we can’t do anything to stop it.
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Summary
We get the birth of Benno von Archimboldi the persona and the writer in this final section. We also see the evolution of his relationship with Ingeborg and their travels until her mysterious death from drowning (?) in a remote village.
Reiter, now Archimboldi for the rest of the section, begins publishing his books with a Mr Bubis, who also happens to be married to Baroness von Zumpe. So that's tidy. Archimboldi has an affair with the Baroness and confesses to spying on her.
We end the section on little sister Lotte, who turns out to be the mother of Klaus Haas the giant and possible killer from the Crimes. She travels back and forth between Germany and Mexico to visit Klaus in prison, and during one flight reads a book by Benno von Archimboldi and recognizes him as her lost brother Hans. We end with Archimboldi on his way to Mexico to "take care of it all" for Lotte.
Some of the details this week:
- How to survive a carpet bombing
- A long digression about Sisyphus
- Le Musee des erreurs
- Archimboldi and Ingeborg stay with a man who killed his wife and got away with it
- More weird sex stuff, notably reminiscing about Entrescu's dick and the soldier who jerks off under a pile of corpses and smells good afterward
- Fürst Pückler's ice cream in three flavors: chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry
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Prompts
Some ideas for discussion (suggestions only, post about whatever you want and feel free to post your own prompts):
Some general end of book questions:
- So did you like this part? Did you like the book overall? Will you be reading more of Bolaño or are you set?
- Please indulge me and rank the sections in your order of preference, given this was so controversial at the outset.
- In the beginning, there was a comment about secret stories, what do you think the secret story or stories of 2666 is? What do you think the thesis of the book is if you had to come up with one?
- If you were reading the FSG version, three different artworks are used for the covers: Gustave Moreau - Jupiter and Semele (the painting most associated with 2666) for parts 1-3, Cy Twombly - Academy for Part 4, and Albertus Seba - Cabinet of Natural Curiosities, Sea Sponge plate for part 5. Now that we've read the book, what do you make of the usage of these artworks, especially Jupiter and Semele?
Some more specific questions about this part:
- Do you think Archimboldi killed Ingeborg? And if so, to spare her from her health problems? something more sinister? something else?
- It's confirmed that Reiter killed Sammer in this section and spurs his name change. What do you think Bolaño is saying about self erasure or reinvention with Archimboldi's evolution?
- In the Part about the Critics, Norton knows Archimboldi has blue eyes through his novels. In this part, Lotte recognizes Archimboldi as her brother. What do you think Bolaño is saying about self expression through fiction?
- Speaking of critics, a critic in this section hedges on Archimboldi's quality to Bubis even when pressed, clearly not liking him. Do you think this is a swipe at critics or something deeper? What does it mean that he cycles through nationalities before arriving at Malaysian?
- Greek figures show up again, notably with Bubis reflecting on Sisyphus at length when visiting Junge. Why? Why do you think they've shown up again and again throughout the book?
- What did you make of Lotte's section and Klaus being Archimboldi's nephew? What did you make of Lotte's biographical section altogether?
- What was up with the ice cream ending?
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Congratulations to everyone who finished! Historically something like <10% make it from the beginning of a read-along to the end, so you're in a highly selective group if you're still around.
Thanks for reading along with me! Next up will be The Magic Mountain hosted by u/Sweet-Bodybuilder250
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Previous Discussions
August 3 - Introduction Thread
August 17: Pages 80-163, through the end of "The Part about the Critics."
August 24: Pages 163-231, the entirety of "The Part about Amalfitano."
August 31: Pages 231-353, the entirety of "The Part about Fate."
September 21: Pages 545-637, through the end of "The Part about the Crimes."
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