u/the_domokun

Hi everyone, we have gone over the feedback to our proposed AI content rule and found that the vocal part of our community is overwhelmingly for a complete ban of content that has been created with generative AI tools. As a consequence, our new rule is rather succinct:

No generative AI content

Content created wholly or in parts by generative AI models (e.g. Gemini, ChatGPT, Claude, etc.) is prohibited in posts and comments.

Please notify the mods if you use AI-based tools for accessibility reasons.

While AI is still somewhat detectable in images, it is harder to spot text written by AI. Please use the report tool to flag suspicious posts for a detailed review by us.

This rule is taking effect immediately, but we will not apply it retroactively.

If you have suggestions or any other concerns please leave a comment below. Thank you all for your feedback on this.

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EDIT: To address some concerns raised in the comments we have added the line "Please notify the mods if you use AI-based tools for accessibility reasons." to the rule. This ban does not aim to prevent people from participating in the community in general.

Since we have had a few posts with potentially AI-generated content recently, we should start a discussion on how to handle such content as a community.

Generative AI is, no doubt, an impressive tool that allows its users to create art that would previously have been beyond their capabilities. The technology is being pushed on everyone who is using the internet, so it is not surprising that people eventually start using it to generate content for RPGs. Some of that content might in fact be useful to players in here.

Of course, this all comes at a rather hidden cost. The most powerful AI models to date have been trained on web-scraped artworks without permission by and/or compensation to their creators. Now the existence of generative AI tools threatens the livelihood of artists that indirectly trained them. A drop in art commissions from individual players might be bearable, but if corporations start to use the same trick, as they now frequently do, artists stand to lose the financial basis that enabled them to create some of the art we enjoy. This problem affects many professions to a certain degree, from visual artists to writers to even programmers. It is up to us here to decide which, if any, kind of AI-generated content we want to allow on this subreddit.

Other subreddits have come to various conclusions on this. For example, r/DnD completely bans AI content and any mentions of it, while r/DungeonsAndDragons allows non-commercial AI art with a special flair.

For our subreddit we would propose to take a bit of each. Wholly AI-generated content, where images and/or text are pretty much unedited LLM output, would be disallowed. See the recent incantation post, where the post text as well as the image contain strong hints of generative AI (e.g. em dashes, gpt-image in metadata, etc.). In contrast to that, the Occulta Mainfesto webapp was created using various AI tools to speed up certain parts of development, but seems to be, at its core, human creative work. We propose to allow such work under the condition that any AI use is declared in the post and that it uses an "AI" flair to allow uninterested redditors to filter such posts out of their feed.

As moderators, we aim to create rules that lead to consistency in post evaluation, so that we don't just remove things based on our gut feeling. While we come up with a concise, yet general formulation, we want to ask you all to weigh in on the topic. Before adding a new rule we will put it out for community review.

- The r/DungeonsAndDragons35e mods