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Next year's Vuelta España Femenina will take place at the end of the season, immediately following the men’s event, UCI announces

The announcement was made as part of a series of UCI decisions, incl. allowing Belarusian riders to ride under their flag as was already posted

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u/vertblau — 30 days ago
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Do organiser skinsuits confer a disadvantage in time trials?

Whenever an important time trial in a Grand Tour comes around and a favourite is leading one of the classifications, a discussion always springs up about whether having to wear the organisers’ skinsuit is a disadvantage for that rider. Most recently this came up again before this Giro’s stage 10 ITT, with some sources even claiming this would cost Vingegaard 30-60 seconds over the 42km.

To be honest this discussion has always annoyed me somewhat – mainly because I don’t like the idea of teams that are already richer benefiting even more directly by developing faster skinsuits to dominate TTs. So I thought the complaining about having to wear organisers’ skinsuits (after all, usually an indicator of being in the lead) was a bit rich.

But still, I was intrigued – is it really a disadvantage? The numbers bandied about often seemed quite exaggerated. And since AI tools have made it much easier to scrape and assemble data these days, I decided to see if there was any way to test this hypothesis.

I gathered data on all individual time-trials in GTs from 2006 to 2025, the last 20 years of racing, excluding prologues since no jerseys would have been distributed yet, as well as mountain time trials since there have been too few to analyse them separately. For each GT, I took the ITT performances of the final top 10, so as to focus on GC contenders, and recorded whether they were leading a classification at the time.

My original idea was to build a very simple model, with speed as the dependent variable and length and elevation as the independent variables, and then test if wearing an organiser skinsuit had any statistically measurable effect. Unfortunately, I then realised that such a model would be completely statistically unsound, mainly because of the confounding effect of those riders leading a classification usually being the better ones. And even if it weren’t for that, the results were statistically insignificant under several different configurations.

However, I didn’t want to let all that data go to waste, so I decided to make some nice charts instead, to give an impressionistic idea of the data. The charts cover all riders who have at least 3 ITTs in an organiser skinsuit in the dataset (unfortunately the Giro 2026 is not in, so no Vingegaard). Speed is plotted against dénivelé (vertical meters). Full dots indicate wearing an organiser skinsuit, while hollow ones indicate wearing a team skinsuit. The size of the dots is scaled to the length of the TT. I’ve also plotted a simple OLS trendline, which for some riders (Evenepoel, Pogačar, Roglič among others) is quite close to the data, and for others (MAL notably) is much further away. I’m sure this data will interest fellow pelotoners despite the statistical failure, so here it is without further ado:

Carapaz

https://preview.redd.it/il859dbsf25h1.jpg?width=907&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4439597e6a7551538349f98a98795049b5f62a5

Contador

https://preview.redd.it/9a378mvtf25h1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=b3fd11fe153ef9d93f56e1721badbbfee96ef2b8

Evenepoel

https://preview.redd.it/xmwhgifuf25h1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=548b8899b41a3a7b198a64bf74403006fed65046

Froome

https://preview.redd.it/kanpim0vf25h1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=865add56a226a5b338e2380a5d5c477f6d65018d

López

https://preview.redd.it/rm9ykrivf25h1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=08a5203826fa05ed557491a0c3428594530ee093

Majka

https://preview.redd.it/vazwkn5wf25h1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=4193790007e15fda72ea97e064a00d9970850fc8

Pogačar

https://preview.redd.it/nhmf3cowf25h1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=367c44ecb902714f242f70bfbc1e0cb4e6d84ade

Quintana

https://preview.redd.it/whujrw4xf25h1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=38e4c7aff9d40b22b3f632c5ac67fe0c370d96f2

Rodríguez

https://preview.redd.it/znq0ekpxf25h1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=c9ba9fab518d172de1ad4a13ce1aa1268fd72e08

Roglič

https://preview.redd.it/kqci4o6yf25h1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=017891d6d7e92ac457bad6c3175397f186304171

Schleck

https://preview.redd.it/ate33ctyf25h1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=c2e80d54d4e959282506093f8f1891499b1096c5

Valverde

https://preview.redd.it/1brom0czf25h1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=ee8377d82812f7aba737e45824c230274756d40f

S. Yates

https://preview.redd.it/9u9spmrzf25h1.png?width=945&format=png&auto=webp&s=cf9f799f941132daf587cd20cacefe5b741cad62

Edit: many people have said the axes should be the other way around, here are all the charts with the axes reversed: https://imgur.com/a/tt-charts-reversed-axes-bBeeDQx

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u/vertblau — 1 month ago