r/AncestryDNA

the "black Irish" question

any researchers here know the origins of this strain of the Irish? is there truly an atlantic migration/med connection? I look Spanish essentially and always get mistaken for it. I also notice we seem to have a bit of a different personality than non-black Irish. we do seem a bit more "med". maybe I'm delusional. any insight would be fascinating. thanks!

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u/EmptyBuilding6800 — 10 hours ago

How does this ancestry add up?

My wife did the ancestry test and came back 60% Native American. We know her great grandmother ( father’s side )was 100% Native American. But her mother is of Spanish Mexican heritage. White and probably no native American. So shouldn’t she be less than 50% Native American.

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u/dfwuser2 — 9 hours ago

Raw Data and Y-DNA results

I just wanted to share something that happened with me, my data, and Ancestry recently. Obviously, this is for you men out there, since it's concerning Y-DNA.

So I learned about MorleyDNA from a comment here. MorleyDNA is a long-established, well-respected tool in the genetic genealogy community. It's run by Chris Morley, an individual hobbyist researcher, and has been operating since 2013. It's routinely recommended on WikiTree, Anthrogenica, the FamilyTreeDNA forums, biostars, and by independent genetic genealogy bloggers, from what I can find. I did some research because I was iffy about uploading my raw DNA data file to some site, but once you upload, it just extracts the Y-DNA and reads that, it doesn't read the whole file. In other words, only ~500–2,000 Y-chromosome SNPs get sent to the server, not your whole file.

Anyway, so I uploaded my raw data file and it came back with zero results. I thought this was odd, considering I'm male and this is supposed to be my entire DNA genome in a .txt file. So I scrolled to the bottom of the file and it only went up to 23 chromosomes, my AncestryDNA raw data download was missing chromosomes 24 (Y), 25 (mtDNA), and 26 (PAR) entirely. So, admittedly, I did some back and forth with ClaudeAI about the issue, and it recommended I reach out to AncestryDNA support, so I did (*I got help from Claude with phrasing and to make sure I got all of the information across that was necessary to get to the bottom of this*).

I got into a chat and messaged the following:

>My raw DNA data download is missing chromosomes 24, 25, and 26 entirely. I'm a biological male and would expect Y-chromosome and mitochondrial data to be present.

Their AI chatbot responded:

>Because we only offer an autosomal DNA test 🧬, your raw DNA download won’t include Y‑DNA or mitochondrial (mtDNA) results. Also, chromosomes labeled 24, 25, and 26 are often just a labeling difference in whatever software you’re using to view/import the file (some tools refer to X and Y as 23 and 24). 

Claude recommended that I push for a human representative. I did so, explaining that:

>I'm a biological male, but my AncestryDNA raw data download is missing chromosomes 24 (Y), 25 (mtDNA), and 26 (PAR) entirely. My file only contains chromosomes 1–23. I've confirmed this by opening the .txt file inside the .zip and scrolling to the end — chromosome 23 is the highest value present.

>I noticed this when trying to use a third-party Y-DNA haplogroup prediction tool, which returned zero recognized Y-SNPs. These chromosomes should normally be present in AncestryDNA raw data for male testers.

>Could you please check:

  1. What biological sex was determined for my sample during processing?
  2. Were there any quality control flags or issues with my sample?
  3. Can my sample be re-run, or can I receive a replacement kit?

>Thank you.

The human representative I got in touch with gave me the following response:

>AncestryDNA only offers autosomal DNA testing, which provides a comprehensive overview of ancestral origins and genetic relatives. It does not provide Y-DNA testing, which is necessary for males to trace their patrilineal ancestry through the Y-chromosome. Consequently, the absence of chromosomes 24 (Y), 25 (mtDNA), and 26 (PAR) in your raw data file is expected, as AncestryDNA does not include Y-chromosome data in its results. This limitation explains why your Y-DNA haplogroup prediction tool returned zero recognized Y-SNPs.

So I could have taken this as it was and been done with it, but I plugged this response into Claude and it immediately called this out as false. AncestryDNA has historically included chromosomes 24 (Y), 25 (mtDNA), and 26 (PAR) in their raw data reporting, even though they don't report it to consumers. So I doubled down and asked the rep to escalate this to a DNA specialist or technical support team who can actually review my sample's processing records to ensure my biological sex was coded as male and whether any quality control issues were flagged for my sample. They agreed to escalate this by creating an error report.

I then received an email from Ancestry with the following information:

>Thank you for your response regarding the technical composition of our raw data files. You are correct that our files historically utilize custom labels for sex chromosomes and mitochondrial data, mapping Chromosome 24 to the Y-Chromosome, Chromosome 25 to the Pseudoautosomal Region, and Chromosome 26 to Mitochondrial DNA.
>We have escalated your inquiry to our DNA technical support specialists to review your specific sample processing records. Our team will verify the biological sex determined during lab processing and check for any quality control flags that may have affected your data.

So fellas, the moral of the story is, if you're at some point interested in your Y-DNA at all, and you don't get it in your raw data, escalate the situation, because this data should be included if you download it!

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u/Kealion — 9 hours ago

Dad Ashkenazi Jew and my mom’s Yemeni Jew . Ancestry seems more accurate for Ashkenazi jew dna , and 23andMe seems better for yemeni Jew ( arab ) dna . My 23andMe results I put to 90 percent confidence level

u/jjosephgoldsteinn — 9 hours ago

How common is it get 100% one ethnicity

I myself am 100% Aegean islands and it’s a common result in where I am from but how normal or non normal is this phenomenon.

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u/Guilty_Fall1212 — 17 hours ago
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Example of the interplay between history and genetics.

The imagine shows the genetic distance of two samples to national averages.
It is a beatiful example of the complex and diverse history of Styria/Stajerska and Slovenia. A genetic sample created from Edelschrott(at least 5 generations back and entirely german surnames) in Western Styria clusters closer to the Slovenian average than to the Austrian one. The reason for that is that the area around Edelschrott is often cited by historians as the (Austrian)-Styrian region with the strongest Carantanian Slavic substrate, the area was one of the most densely populated by Slavs, before Bavarian settlers arrived and even survived as a Slovene language exclave while 95% of (Austrian)-Styria was already German-speaking.

On the opposite is a sample 50% from Krapje north of Ljutomer and 50% from Sicheldorf/Zetince near Radkersburg/Radgona. Even though it is entrirely made up of Slovenian surnames (going back 5 generations) it clusters more closely with the Austrian average. The reason for this can be found in history again. While the Carantanian Slavs (especially the tribe of the Dulebs) settled these areas in the 6th century the later arrivals of the Magyars(Hungarians) changed the settelment structure in the region. Continuous Hungarian raids from 880-1040 wiped out almost all Carantanian (and the few Carolingian German) settlments in Eastern Styria and Stajerska especially along the Mura river and in parts of Prekmurje. To revitalize the areas in the 11th to 13th century the ruling aristocracy sent Bavarian and Lower Austrian settlers to repopulate the empty areas. This led to eastern Styria being a genetic outlier in Austria often clustering closer to Bavaria than surrounding regions. But the genetic mark was also left in Northeastern Stajerska in which these later Bavarian settlers, just like the Slovenes in Upper Styria, assimiliated into the the local population. This leaves us with a genetic sample from Prekmurje/Ljutomer/Radgona that while being made up entirely of Slovene surnames, lays genetically closer to Austria, than to the Slovene average.

(Both samples family trees were traced back at least 5 generations and are 100% from the area.)

u/ItHappensSo — 12 hours ago

From Zamora, Michoacán

Anybody with similar results from this area ? Last names Barragan, Garibay, Vega, Cacho, Alfaro.

u/Square-Captain-2903 — 16 hours ago

Helping my friend locate her biological father

Hello all,

Recently I have been assisting my friend in locating her biological father. Through her Ancestry DNA results and genealogy research we were able to identify him and get a phone number and an email address. She decided to email him yesterday and as of today he has not responded. Which I didn't see as a bad thing. There could be a number of reasons why he hasn't responded yet. But his lack of response has sent her spiraling. It hasn't been a full 24 hours yet. And she keeps texting me that he is ignoring her email.

She sent me a text about an hour ago saying she is going to delete the email account I talked her out of it but she has put a week deadline on receiveing a response. If she doesn't receive a response she is going to cut the only line of communication she has if he does eventually try to reply. Because she didn't include a secondary email, she didn't include a number or any of her social media accounts.

I think this is a bad idea but maybe I am wrong and I should just let her do what she feels is best and not try to convince her again otherwise. My question is what do you guys think is a good waiting period to see if he responds back?

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u/Marie_InTech — 21 hours ago

dna results as an american from new jersey

repost bc i forgot the images oops but for context, my great grandparents on both sides came to ellis island. my dads side claims puerto rican, syrian and italian ancestry, my moms claimed polish, russian, maltese and italian ancestry but thru the dna we found out there is no russian, its slovakian due to my mom’s grandfather not knowing who his father was

u/cherrydill0n — 1 day ago
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Self reported Levantine DNA from r/23andme, among Palestinians

I went back and analyzed 71 posts of Palestinians displaying their ancestry results. Of those, 41 were analyzable (ie: not deleted) by the time I went back and plugged the data into a spreadsheet. I know, it’s a controversial topic, but a lot of the accounts who originally posted were totally deleted.

I noticed we discussed this phenomenon in the comments, but I was curious to what extent the data backed it up.

u/Iamnotanorange — 1 day ago

I have a question about shipping the tests.

Okay so I'm 14, so don't come at me for being dumb.

Me and my mom ordered two tests, one for me and one for her.

We mailed the tests on the 12th, and I wanted to know how long it would take for it to return to the lab.

We don't live in Ireland, and it said the lab was in Ireland.

Also, our tests came from Germany.

(We live in Canada lmao)

I also want to know if it emails you once it's been shipped, because it's been 9 days and there's been no updates (I know nine days is a very short period of time but I am an impatient rat)

u/Xrujix — 19 hours ago

Found my adult child’s sperm donor

We have a very unique adoption story. My child (now in their 20s) was carried by a surrogate for a different intended mother. It’s a complicated story but I was fortunate enough to become a mother through adoption from the surrogate. My child will soon be a parent, which has led to more curiosity about genetics. We have been in contact with the egg donor and have comprehensive health and family history. We are grateful to her for that! The intended mother asked her friend to donate sperm. There was so much secrecy surrounding his identity. When my child was a baby, we tried to get his health history but were denied, which seemed really odd? We recently did a DNA test,made it public, and discovered his identity. He’s extremely wealthy and high profile, which explains the secrecy. We simply want to approach him for health and family history. I’m certain his kids and other close relatives will discover the DNA connection at some point if they haven’t already. My child is naturally curious about their biological ties. I am too! We don’t care that the donor is high profile and wealthy, but it does complicate how we approach the situation and possibly complicates his willingness to share information.

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u/seesiouxgo — 1 day ago