r/ArtConservation

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Trying to Perfectly Preserve Media completely misses how culture actually works

The increasingly common belief that everything must be preserved, whether it is a game, a book, or any other type of media, and that failing to do so somehow “destroys culture,” is, in my view, fundamentally mistaken. It ignores how culture has actually functioned throughout all of human history.

I believe that the loss of media is not automatically a tragedy. It is a natural and essential part of cultural evolution. I am not advocating for the active destruction of works. I am saying that the systematic and almost forceful preservation of every single thing simply because it exists is neither necessary nor historically normal.

Consider penny dreadfuls: cheap, disposable entertainment printed on low-quality paper that was never intended to last. Most of them are gone today. This is not a cultural disaster. It reflects what the society of the time valued and what it did not bother to protect.

Throughout most of human history, works survived only if people considered them valuable enough to keep, copy, or maintain, or if they survived by sheer luck. That selective survival shaped culture itself. When people look back at earlier decades and think, “Media was better back then,” they often forget that the only reason it seems that way is because the material that survived is the material people cared about. The forgettable and mediocre mass-market works disappeared, and so they no longer influence our impression of the era.

Loss is not always harmful. It is often revealing. Culture grows through selection rather than through perfect archival completeness. Future generations create new culture based on what the past leaves behind, whether intentionally or by coincidence. That process is how culture has always evolved.

For that reason, the idea that every piece of media must be preserved forever is not only unrealistic but also incompatible with how cultural development actually works.

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u/Interesting-Injury87 — 4 days ago
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Career pathway advice for a fresh Materials Engineering grad interested in museum objects conservation?

Hello, I hope everyone is having a good day/evening ^^. I would like to ask if you have any advice for me given that:

- I've just recently graduated from Materials Engineering in my home country (I am based in Asia), and

- Because I was under government scholarship during my undergrad, I am contractually obligated to work/provide return-of-service for 4 years (meaning I cannot move/work abroad).

In my program, we were taught a wide range of materials characterization and failure analysis techniques that I think (from my limited research) can be applicable to field archaeology/museum conservation. My program had courses in general, analytical, and organic chemistry as well.

I first got interested in museum work when a professor offhandedly mentioned an alumni who characterizes foreign debris in artifacts found at archaeological sites. Several of my professors also worked as consultants for heritage building and/or art paintings conservation programs. Right now however I find myself more interested in conservation of display objects i.e., ceramics, metals, textiles. (Edit: I have briefly also entertained as well a career in paleontology, but I feel that's a different ballpark entirely..!)

I've read through several posts in this subreddit and it seems to be a consensus that graduate studies are necessary. Because of my return-of-service contract, I am considering pursuing a diploma of archaeology while I work in my country (which may transition into an MA if I choose). Only my home university offers this. Another university offers an MA in cultural heritage studies, but I have not done enough research yet to fully consider it. I could also earn a diploma in archaeology and take an MA abroad instead after my 4 years are done.

There is also the matter of work itself. Entry-level positions are more lucrative in tech/industry at the moment, but I've read here as well that work/volunteer experience at museums are very important. I am sure that opportunities for the latter exist, but not enough to provide for my day-to-day. If I do end up working in a field emtirely unrelated to conservation, I would like to know as well what skills I should cultivate on the side/transfer over to into conservation in the future.

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TL;DR i'm a slightly overwhelmed Materials Engineerimg graduate who would like to know if:

(1) a non-US/EU diploma in archaeology would be a good first step to a career in museums object conservation, and

(2) what skills should I focus on growing within 4 years of (possibly) working in the tech/manufacturing industry?

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u/street-tape — 5 days ago

Is this realy XX century decor piece?

Hi everyone,

A few days ago, I posted this painting in the main identification group. One person commented, confidently stating that it was likely an early 20th-century mass-produced decor piece. I got quite discouraged by that single negative comment, felt disappointed, and ended up deleting the post entirely.

However, I decided not to give up, took the canvas completely out of its external frame and investigate further. I bought a 365nm UV ligt. Under this light, the painting glows milky greenish-yellow fluorescence.

So, was that commenter wrong? Could this actually be older than modern decor? Also, I am more than happy to take and share more photos of any specific details if requested! I would love to hear thoughts from art historians and conservators!

Thank you!

u/Active_Willingness97 — 4 days ago

Change to the surface of lead sculpture

I recently unpacked a lead sculpture that had been in storage for 6 years. The surface had completely shifted to have this layer of white (corrosion?). It is not powdery at all which I thought was typical of lead corrosion. This is almost in or on the surface. A conservator suggested wet cleaning but this is when we believed it was a powder. Wet cleaning did not removed anything. Has anyone seen this before? Is this just a natural patina shift as lead ages? Of course concerned about potential for toxicity with lead.

u/Pale_Flan_4177 — 5 days ago

C1860 painting under UV light

I have this old painting (frame is new). I had the old varnish removed. Under UV light in the sky area it shows up pink. Almost like initals before painting over it. Any ideas what causes this and was it intentional by the painter?

u/Big_Corgi_3837 — 6 days ago
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Career pivot to fine art - art gallery / auction houses / museum curation etc with no background in art

I am interested in working with fine art - working in somewhere like Sothesby, Christie's, Hotlotz (yes its the one that recently auctioned the loot from the infamous Fujian money launderers), art museums, art gallery etc.

For background I have been working a normal corporate job in finance / law for a couple of years. Late 20s. No academic background in art other than getting A+ in college for art history (lol)

Anyone been through a similar journey before or know where to get started?

Thank you kind strangers!

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u/lickmichimarsch — 13 days ago