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Image 1 — L’intrigant - Victor Marais Milton 1872 - My interpretation
Image 2 — L’intrigant - Victor Marais Milton 1872 - My interpretation

L’intrigant - Victor Marais Milton 1872 - My interpretation

I’ve been intrigued by this painting, ever since I saw a post on Instagram analysing what it could mean. I have searched Reddit for opinions but I haven’t found many opinions like mine. Curious to know what you think.

Firstly, I do agree that the women could be prostitutes because of visual details such as the red heels, more revealing clothing, and the intimate setting. However, I do NOT think the artist is trying to shame or degrade them. If anything, I think he gives them humanity and complexity rather than reducing them to stereotypes.

The women are clearly the emotional focus of the painting. The artist gives far more attention to their expressions, movements and interactions, while the man is not even fully shown - the artist didn’t even bother giving him a face. Although his clothing suggests wealth, I think the artist is saying the man is less important. The man does have a ring on so, in terms of the name of the painting, I see him as the true “meddler” because he’s dragging the woman into his affair.

Secondly, I interpret the woman with one shoe as someone trying to escape. The red mark around her mouth stands out because it looks different from the other woman’s lips. Whether it is a bleeding lip or smudged lipstick, it appears intentional. I also think that if the artist wanted her to appear flirtatious or playful, he could have painted even a small coy smile, but he did not. I can see on his other paintings he does pay a great deal of attention to expressions, Instead, her expression feels more distressed and serious. Combined with the missing shoe and the room being in disarray, this creates a feeling of panic and urgency, as though something has happened very suddenly.

I also think the painting presents both the softness and strength of women. The flowers and delicate details around the room create a sense of femininity, beauty and warmth. At the same time, the standing woman appears to be helping and protecting her friend, showing strength and loyalty. Her expression almost amused, giving her personality and humour rather than making her feel passive. It’s like he wanted to show her as clever and humorous. This makes the women feel like real people with relationships and emotions rather than one-dimensional ‘just a prostitute’.

Finally, small details in the room suggest that the women have lives and identities outside of men. Like the knocked basket of knitting needles and the beautifully arranged flowers. I also found the tiny painting in the background interesting because I could see two possible interpretations: either a knocked-over vase or two women helping another woman up - this could be a stretch from me though.

Overall, I don’t think the artist is trying to present women as “daft prostitutes”. Instead, I think he portrays them as strong, intelligent and human, while the man acts more as the disruption to their world rather than the centre of it.

Image from https://www.artrenewal.org/artworks/lintrigant/victor-marais-milton/69486

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Is there a blog or thread anyone can point me to with a collection of these types of paintings?

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Digital Restoration of Famous Paintings Based on Conservation Research

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All the sources and techniques are on this site, enjoy!

https://aspainted.com

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Would love to hear what painting comes in mind for you!
Ps: if you like to look more into this painting and see the process here is the links I used

https://www.thedavidhockneyfoundation.org/chronology/1972

https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6171867

https://www.singulart.com/blog/en/2024/01/31/david-hockneys-a-portrait-of-an-artist-pool-with-two-figures/

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According to Joan, 3 voices continually counseled and protected her in her mission to save France from English Occupation. These were the Archangel Michael, Saint Catherine of Alexandria and Saint Margaret. She also reported being visited by Saint Gabriel. In her own words:

"When I was thirteen, I had a voice from God to help me to govern myself. The first time, I was terrified. The voice came to me about noon: it was summer, and I was in my father’s garden….I saw it many times before I knew it was Saint Michael….He was not alone, but duly attended by heavenly angels….He told me Saint Catherine and Saint Margaret would come to me, and I must follow their counsel; that they were appointed to guide and counsel me in what I had to do, and that I must believe what they would tell me, for it was at our Lord’s command."

One of the more popular aspects of Joan's life to be depicted in artwork are imaginings of her reaction to these voices and visions. I find their choices in portraying her reaction interesting to compare and contrast. Some choose literal depictions of visions, others are more figurative, and her reactions range from humble piety to terrifying determination. I'm curious what others think! Do you have a favorite in the set, or is there another version that I didn't include that you like?

Sources: (1) (2)

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u/oesa56 — 3 days ago

Why do some beautiful paintings look like a collage?

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Images:

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u/disposableprofileguy — 4 days ago
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"Do you think that $86 million is an honest price for a Rothko?"

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Credits to: https://www.wsj.com/arts-culture/fine-art/mark-rothko-abstract-sells-for-85-8-million-dab34442

https://www.ilgiornaledellarte.com/Articolo/-milioni-di-dollari-per-Mark-Rothko-il-suo-abisso-rosso-e-un-trionfo-a-New-York

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u/Violet_Walls — 4 days ago

Monet’s Water Lilies

Discussion: Below my discussion is a poem I wrote about Monet’s Garden of Giverny. He amongst most impressionist artists reflected in their art how nature - the Sun and with it shade changes the appearance of the objects as the sun reflects upon them. This artwork shows a reality in nature that is not often shown in other forms of art especially at that time. I find it fascinating that impressionists broke out from other artists at this time and showed patrons viewing his creations another way to look at artwork.

Monet reflected his own passion. In his Garden of Giverny there was a pond with various floating water lilies. To visit his Gardens would have been fascinating.

Monet’s paintings like his gardens illustrate effects of nature.
He crafted a pond with a sun’s radiance affected by shade.
 
Monet arrayed his gardens on many good sized canvases
where on one he captured his color in his water lilies.
By using short, thick strokes to capture essence from his sun,
he reflected in his paintings that sun’s illusion and movement.
 
On his canvases the pond mirrored the atmospheric changes 
such as the wind moving a cloud; a sun creating reflection the
wind providing movement as the water lilies floated to its edges;
Monet created movement with an intriguing continuity of color.
 
Illumination was important in his paintings as in his gardens.
He ensured his sun’s reflection would affect all of his creations.
It was light that softened or dazzled the color on his canvas.
The contrasting light and shade in his paintings created variety.
 
Monet and artistes of the day changed the future of modern art.
Monet’s use of color was significant in the artwork of his future.
He refused to depend on order and replication which caused
Monet to retreat from his studio into painting in the open air.
©️LGE January 2021 - revised November 28, 2023  

u/Agreeable-Usual1119 — 3 days ago